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naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:47 PM Jan 2013

A Berklee Professor Dives Into Cuba's Vast Music Scene

Berklee College of Music professor Bill Banfield knew he’d find music on the streets of Old Havana, he just didn’t know how much. On our first full day we run into a guitarist singing about the Cuban Revolution. Bill saddles up next to him and does his best to sing along.

http://www.wbur.org/2013/01/16/a-berklee-professor-dives-into-cubas-vast-music-scene

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A Berklee Professor Dives Into Cuba's Vast Music Scene (Original Post) naaman fletcher Jan 2013 OP
That would be soooo much fun! 2naSalit Jan 2013 #1
me too naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #2
Don't go. Castro's goons will follow you and watch your every move. Mika Jan 2013 #3
thanks.. naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #4
They aren't interested in enforcing anything, word is that flamingdem Jan 2013 #9
Impromptu music is such a gas though. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #5
Cuba scary as in unsafe? naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #6
Her definition was mostly about human conditions 2naSalit Jan 2013 #7
I'm sure it's fine naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #8
Good point. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #10
You should go, I've been there a ton of times flamingdem Jan 2013 #12
thanks naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #14
You're lucky, I was pricing flights today and flamingdem Jan 2013 #16
ugh naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #17
You won't have a problem flamingdem Jan 2013 #13
hmm.. what do you mean? naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #15
Most tourist quickly learn about touts who are very skilled flamingdem Jan 2013 #18
OK that's what I thought you meant.. naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #19
Wow. joshcryer Jan 2013 #20
Cuba is not unsafe compared to many destinations but flamingdem Jan 2013 #11

2naSalit

(102,097 posts)
1. That would be soooo much fun!
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:51 PM
Jan 2013

Being a musician myself, I would love to do something like that.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
3. Don't go. Castro's goons will follow you and watch your every move.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jan 2013


Just kidding.
The Cubans will love ya, but, the Canadians won't.



flamingdem

(40,849 posts)
9. They aren't interested in enforcing anything, word is that
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jan 2013

you can go, write Cuba on your countries visited and no one will blink.

no $ for enforcement for one, they never have enforced it really

2naSalit

(102,097 posts)
5. Impromptu music is such a gas though.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jan 2013

I have often thought that going to Cuba and check it out would be kind of fun but my best friend, from a former communist, eastern European country, told me it is really a scary place after she went there last year. And she's a pretty open-minded Anthropologist. But the music scene has to be interesting at the very least.

2naSalit

(102,097 posts)
7. Her definition was mostly about human conditions
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:52 PM
Jan 2013

and that getting "followed" is a real thing. Not sure what else. Another friend, much younger, during the Bu$h years went there to conduct research but actually had to go in the guise of a nun to be able to do her research unmonitored. I suspect that going as a tourist would have many benefits but I wonder about what others see and what I might see and how it would be different than their perspectives. My best friend was a tourist, world traveler and very well informed. I think she didn't like the political aspects as well and the abject poverty. The researcher had some rather circumspect views that I appreciated, she was studying the health concerns of the prostitute population. She said they have the best healthcare she had seen in any country because it's socialized and since their trade is recognized, they are well tended to. Interesting stuff but I am getting old and not so inclined to take certain risks when traveling. But I love to go where the music is good!

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
8. I'm sure it's fine
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:54 PM
Jan 2013

I've been to South Sudan, Uganda, Tanzania, Guatemala, and many places that actually are unsafe at some level.

So some state security dude watches me drink Cuba Libre's and smoke a fat cigar? Doesn't bother me.

2naSalit

(102,097 posts)
10. Good point.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jan 2013

I just don't get out much anymore. I guess my perspective could be a bit colored by that.

flamingdem

(40,849 posts)
12. You should go, I've been there a ton of times
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jan 2013

without too many problems and tons of great memories.

I LOVED hanging out with the street musicians, and the other musical offerings are amazing.. there aren't enough words to describe how rich and varied the music scene is in Cuba.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
14. thanks
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jan 2013

I'm mostly living in panama city now and there are regular flights. ill consider it for sure.

flamingdem

(40,849 posts)
16. You're lucky, I was pricing flights today and
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jan 2013

the flights out of Cancun are higher than I thought - 400 rt more than ever. It's not much more from Central America and you can do it in one flight.

By the way there is an outbreak of Cholera at the moment that I assume will be under control within a couple of weeks since it's mostly brought in from the East and (just 50 people only 1 death), from Doctors who were in Haiti who got it from Nepalese volunteers, so sad. That part about Haiti is breaking news on NPR and a cover up is being claimed since 8 thousand have died in Haiti. I just learned that it was the first outbreak in a century for both countries.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
17. ugh
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jan 2013

Haiti would be so much better with out the "help".

In any event, I probably couldn't do this until march or april anyway.

flamingdem

(40,849 posts)
13. You won't have a problem
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jan 2013

The government doesn't want problems with tourists. Unless you look for trouble you'll be okay. With that said there is quite a bit of trouble to get into if you get very involved with the lives of Cubans who make their living off of tourists, even there if you are careful you can have very good guides and make friends if you set boundaries.

flamingdem

(40,849 posts)
18. Most tourist quickly learn about touts who are very skilled
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:13 AM
Jan 2013

and roam the tourist zones (jineteros). I know many people who have married them and I am good friends with more than a handful, the majority have left Cuba. Many professional Cubans end up engaging in jineterismo, google it for more information. Mainly it's about getting kickbacks in restaurants, casas, and if you help someone or act as their guide getting a payment or at least gifts. Of course there are men and women who take this more into prostitution and some who really are prostitutes but it's a a continuum and not as clear cut as in many societies. As I said I know a lot of people who have married those they met on their first trip, and they are still together. It's not as likely you'll meet them if you are with others or you don't like company but they are there to help in a sense because certain things, like information about what's going on and where, is hard to find. You can "rent" their time, they don't usually put a price on it but they should be tipped etc.

flamingdem

(40,849 posts)
11. Cuba is not unsafe compared to many destinations but
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jan 2013

you do have to be careful about petty theft as a tourist. The usual precautions apply.

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