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melody

(12,365 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:41 PM Sep 2013

OK, so we are going to default -- there's no way around this budget impasse

What happens from there to the economy? What can we do to semi-protect ourselves.

Anyone have any guesses?

Seriously, anyone? I have a vacation planned for next week. I'm thinking we should cancel in case.

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OK, so we are going to default -- there's no way around this budget impasse (Original Post) melody Sep 2013 OP
Gas up the car? Shop for groceries early in the week? hedgehog Sep 2013 #1
Yes, well, I've got that covered. melody Sep 2013 #2
See the big picture thus... Ghost Dog Sep 2013 #10
No one's going to default. The bankers who own the country and collect the interest won't allow it. mbperrin Sep 2013 #3
Printing money isn't a pretty option either melody Sep 2013 #4
Well, the Fed has been printing more than 80 billion a month for several years now. mbperrin Sep 2013 #5
Enjoy your vacation! abelenkpe Sep 2013 #6
Thanks! melody Sep 2013 #7
The best way for the country to protect itself... Deep13 Sep 2013 #8
That's the problem with blue sky scenarios melody Sep 2013 #9

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
1. Gas up the car? Shop for groceries early in the week?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:13 PM
Sep 2013

I know what to do when there's a big snow storm coming, but not what to do now!

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
3. No one's going to default. The bankers who own the country and collect the interest won't allow it.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:12 AM
Sep 2013

Even if we did, and no one would loan us a dime, the Fed can simply create the money to pay the bills.

But that's way out.

We never have and are not about to default. It's just kabuki.

melody

(12,365 posts)
4. Printing money isn't a pretty option either
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:16 AM
Sep 2013

How long until that wrecks havoc?

I do appreciate your input.

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
5. Well, the Fed has been printing more than 80 billion a month for several years now.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:38 AM
Sep 2013

That's why interest rates on savings are close to zero.

Other than that, seems to be little effect.

Thank YOU for posting!

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
6. Enjoy your vacation!
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:52 AM
Sep 2013

They won't default. And if they did, and chaos erupted wouldn't you rather have had one last vacation?

Seriously, don't worry. Don't worry about printing either.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
8. The best way for the country to protect itself...
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 03:43 AM
Sep 2013

...is to tell the creditors to go fuck themselves. Austerity or tax hikes to repay public debt, or to pay interest on it, is a transfer of wealth from the productive lower and middle classes to the parasitic capitalist class. My advice to all debtor countries is not to pay their debts. That will instantly make a lot more cash available for things that will actually help people and improve the economy.

melody

(12,365 posts)
9. That's the problem with blue sky scenarios
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 04:36 PM
Sep 2013

Our lord and masters won't accept all the pain themselves. They will force the "eaters" to pay.

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