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Gold and other metals are all dropping today -- anyone know what triggered it ? nt (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 OP
All the people grinding their teeth need fillings. Beakybird Sep 2020 #1
Good one! MLAA Sep 2020 #2
I red an article- dentists seeing a big increase in cracked teeth progree Sep 2020 #24
Over my last 70+ years of casually watching markets I've discovered that... Binkie The Clown Sep 2020 #3
That's exactly right PirateRo Sep 2020 #5
'Mr. Morgan ! Can you predict what the market will do ?' eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #7
Of course you are right, hour to hour. However, the 1/3 losses around March 2020, empedocles Sep 2020 #15
Gold is largely about deflation fears. More signficant is oil dropping a larger 5%, empedocles Sep 2020 #4
The stock market is just, when you get down to it...the same as betting on the ponies. Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #6
I can't say. Laelth Sep 2020 #8
Profit taking I'm guessing. It's had a good run, fundamentals of owning metals is ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #9
That was what I was worrying about. I was kind of hoping 45 could at least drive it up a little ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #11
Well, with Biden in office, things will get back to 'normal' more faster than what we're going ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #13
I still can't believe he hasn't caught it. Reminds me of the old joke about lawyers ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #14
Democrats being projected to take the WH, the Senate and several state legislatures ... marble falls Sep 2020 #10
I have been seeing Ron Paul ads on tv. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #12
Paul an indicator like fox news ads to buy gold. Do the opposite. empedocles Sep 2020 #17
All the libertarian dickheads who are behind on their rent or mortgage are selling. Crowman2009 Sep 2020 #16
The death of Tony Tenpenny Blue Owl Sep 2020 #18
Stocks are dropping rapidly, too Warpy Sep 2020 #19
"I hate to see it," says WH econ adviser Larry Kudlow of today's drop on Wall Street, 900-points .. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #20
holders of silver and gold most likely cashing out their profits (huge) beachbumbob Sep 2020 #21
also with big market drops, investors unload commodities to cover margin calls beachbumbob Sep 2020 #22
Stocks Tumble as Surge in Virus Cases Imperils Recovery. elleng Sep 2020 #23
I suspect markets are finally accepting that Cheeto will not be re-elected sandensea Sep 2020 #25

progree

(10,918 posts)
24. I red an article- dentists seeing a big increase in cracked teeth
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 03:18 PM
Sep 2020

due to people grinding their teeth more due to stress.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
3. Over my last 70+ years of casually watching markets I've discovered that...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:51 AM
Sep 2020

...sometimes they go up and sometimes they go down.

Analysts will use words like "after" and "when" to pretend they understand why, but saying something like "The Dow Jones dropped today after Boeing announced ...." actually makes as much sense as saying "Stocks were higher today after Jennifer Lopez got a speeding ticket in L.A."

"After" hints at understanding that does not exist in reality. The truth is, nobody really understands why, but sometimes market go up and sometimes markets go down.

PirateRo

(933 posts)
5. That's exactly right
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:59 AM
Sep 2020

They don’t really know. They just pick the biggest story and go with it.

If you watch it for any length of time, you learn to take those before/after stories with a bag of salt.

eppur_se_muova

(36,289 posts)
7. 'Mr. Morgan ! Can you predict what the market will do ?'
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:01 AM
Sep 2020

"Yes. It will fluctuate."

Already familiar with the concept, thanks.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
15. Of course you are right, hour to hour. However, the 1/3 losses around March 2020,
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:18 AM
Sep 2020

did tell some things. Some had predicted some things - though advance timing is tricky for most or all.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Gold is largely about deflation fears. More signficant is oil dropping a larger 5%,
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:58 AM
Sep 2020

which is about the fear of general economic slowdown.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. I can't say.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:02 AM
Sep 2020

What I will say is that the markets are neurotic. They tend to over-react to stimuli, and what bothers the markets most is uncertainty. Uncertainty leads to panic, and panic leads to irrational selling. Notice that you rarely (if ever) see panic buying, but selling is often driven by uncertainty that creates panic.

RBG’s passing has created uncertainty. That’s the only recent event (of which I am aware) that might create some uncertainty and some panic-selling.



-Laelth

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
9. Profit taking I'm guessing. It's had a good run, fundamentals of owning metals is ...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:03 AM
Sep 2020

still pretty well the same, but the hysteria surrounding trump is abating, and the markets have seemingly baked in Biden as the winner in the upcoming Nov. 2020 elections (normality returns! markets get back to basics)...

eppur_se_muova

(36,289 posts)
11. That was what I was worrying about. I was kind of hoping 45 could at least drive it up a little ...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:07 AM
Sep 2020

... further so I could at last get something beneficial out of this Godforsaken maladministration.

(Inherited a couple of coins)

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
13. Well, with Biden in office, things will get back to 'normal' more faster than what we're going ...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:14 AM
Sep 2020

though now w/ trump. trump is not doing the economy or anyone else for that matter a favor. If anything, trump has wrecked the economy with his stupid actions, ranting and raving, and personally, I think the markets are on pause until the POS is thrown out of office finally. Can't have a functioning, normal market when you have an idiot in the WH writing executive actions right and left, thinking that they'll save the world (they won't and if anything, are confusing the hell out of everybody).

I know that everyone on DU are sick and tired of the moron in the WH, but the markets too, and the rest of the world, is sick and tired of the moron in the WH. Why do you think that the moron is having fewer and fewer rallies? Mainly because they're finding fewer and fewer places to find the level of support the moron craves. Not everyone is literally dying to die from the CV.

I hope the moron catches the CV and not just a milder form of the CV. I want him to suffer. Thing is, he still has thousands and thousands of deaths on his bloody hands.

eppur_se_muova

(36,289 posts)
14. I still can't believe he hasn't caught it. Reminds me of the old joke about lawyers ...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:18 AM
Sep 2020

Q: Why don't sharks attack lawyers ?

A: Professional courtesy.

Maybe 45 is getting the same sort of consideration -- you know, one agent of disaster helping another.

marble falls

(57,203 posts)
10. Democrats being projected to take the WH, the Senate and several state legislatures ...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Sep 2020

Less fear, less volatility on metals futures.

safeinOhio

(32,715 posts)
12. I have been seeing Ron Paul ads on tv.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:13 AM
Sep 2020

When ever that happens, I figure gold prices are headed South and he is trying to unload.

Warpy

(111,338 posts)
19. Stocks are dropping rapidly, too
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:43 AM
Sep 2020

It looks like most people are ignoring the FinCEN story but Wall Street just might have noticed it.

Crooks are scrambling for ready cash.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
20. "I hate to see it," says WH econ adviser Larry Kudlow of today's drop on Wall Street, 900-points ..
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020
“I hate to see it,” says WH econ adviser Larry Kudlow of today’s drop on Wall Street, 900-points as he spoke. “These things happen,” but says, “corrections come and go.” He also thinks there’s “great concern” that Britain might shut down in response to Coronavirus.


sandensea

(21,664 posts)
25. I suspect markets are finally accepting that Cheeto will not be re-elected
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:14 PM
Sep 2020

What might that have to do with gold prices?

Orange Amin, as you know, is major gold bug - and many of his top-tier appointments have been as well.

The most infamous is probably Fed Board appointee Judy Shelton - whose family has large gold hoards, and who's an adamant supporter of going back to the Gold Standard.

It would, of course, trigger a depression - but who cares, if you've got the gold.

A Biden victory, then, would scuttle any such policy gold rush - and it seems to me that markets are finally coming to terms with the fact that Cheeto is a lame duck.

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