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exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:00 AM Jun 2016

First female teen to win Ohio masonry competition bumped from national contest

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/06/19/teen-girl-bumped-from-national-masonry-competition.html

Shania Clifford, a 17-year-old from Scioto County, became the first female to win a gold medal in the SkillsUSA Ohio masonry competition in late April.

But in mid-May, Clifford found out she would not be attending the next level of the competition, a national leadership and skills conference held in Louisville, Kentucky.

And she found out via Facebook.

This is a great competition that I knew nothing about. On the other hand the administration is abysmal.
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First female teen to win Ohio masonry competition bumped from national contest (Original Post) exboyfil Jun 2016 OP
This is just wrong. Best wishes to Shania Clifford. She should be going to the next competition.... think Jun 2016 #1
But there is no sexism! WhiteTara Jun 2016 #2
They said a similar scoring snafu happened before exboyfil Jun 2016 #3
You think they deliberately changed the scores to prevent a female from winning? oberliner Jun 2016 #4
70 years of being female WhiteTara Jun 2016 #5
Seems like it was a clerical error oberliner Jun 2016 #6
Of course. nt WhiteTara Jun 2016 #7
Is it your contention that they deliberately changed the scores so the girl would lose? oberliner Jun 2016 #8
Of course not. Boys always win. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #9
OK oberliner Jun 2016 #10
Of course not. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #11
I get the sarcasm oberliner Jun 2016 #12
She won and had her win given WhiteTara Jun 2016 #13
Because she was a girl? oberliner Jun 2016 #14
You'll have to draw your own WhiteTara Jun 2016 #15
 

think

(11,641 posts)
1. This is just wrong. Best wishes to Shania Clifford. She should be going to the next competition....
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

WhiteTara

(29,784 posts)
2. But there is no sexism!
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jun 2016
No woman mason and no woman president. Let's just change the scores and all will be well.

exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
3. They said a similar scoring snafu happened before
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jun 2016

I would not attribute it to sexism without additional information. It does look suspicious. I think all the competitors are being cheated by a poor administration. It is really a shame because we need more competitions and learning experiences like this for our young people.

Hopefully we get more information in a follow up story. The group sponsoring the event needs new leadership and they need to fully explain what happened.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. You think they deliberately changed the scores to prevent a female from winning?
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jun 2016

What do you base that on?

WhiteTara

(29,784 posts)
5. 70 years of being female
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jun 2016

and watching my accomplishments attributed to men. Being denied entry into certain fields because they are "for men." Just being affected by the general misogyny that pervades all societies.

What makes you think it's not? She had the highest score and was replaced by a male in third place.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Seems like it was a clerical error
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jun 2016

The numbers were incorrectly entered onto the scoresheet and it ended up leading to a tabulation error.

That seems many times more likely than a deliberate conspiracy to falsify scores in order to put a boy in the first place position instead of a girl.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. Is it your contention that they deliberately changed the scores so the girl would lose?
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

Specifically because she was a girl?

WhiteTara

(29,784 posts)
9. Of course not. Boys always win.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jun 2016

The judges allowed her to keep her medal, but gave her place to someone else, who just happens to be male.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. OK
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

I am trying to understand what you are claiming here.

So you think this claim that the scores weren't entered correctly is a made up cover story to hide the fact that these officials wanted to replace the female winner of the contest with a male one?

WhiteTara

(29,784 posts)
11. Of course not.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jun 2016

Male judges would never do that, that would be so unfair.

If you have never been the subject of racism, sexism, rape, misogyny, it probably seems so outside your sphere of reality that it seems natural that the first girl to win a competition like that was fairly bumped. Of course, you are most likely correct. The 3rd place boy was really the winner.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Because she was a girl?
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jun 2016

And the people in charge of the competition did not want a girl to be the winner?

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