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Modern School

(794 posts)
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:26 PM May 2012

Teacher Shortage or Glut?

It is often said that we are suffering a teacher shortage and that terrible pay and working conditions are only worsening it. However, due to several years of mass layoffs, combined with increasing class sizes, most districts have plenty of teachers to fill current needs.

The problem is no longer a shortage of teachers, but a shortage of teaching services. There are sufficient teachers to cover the desired number of classes, but there are far fewer course offerings and desired classes offered to students. They have far more classmates in the remaining classes, which results in less one on one attention from their teachers. Because of the increased workloads, teachers are resorting more and more to multiple choice exams, instead of open ended tests that requiring more reading and team; less inquiry-based labs and more pen and paper or computer simulations.

Modern School
http://modeducation.blogspot.com/2012/05/teacher-shortage-or-glut.html

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Teacher Shortage or Glut? (Original Post) Modern School May 2012 OP
For the past thirty years or so I've been amazed at the number SheilaT May 2012 #1
50% leave the profession within 5 years proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #2
In my area, we're getting 800-1000 applicants per opening. knitter4democracy May 2012 #3
Glut or Gluttons for pain? Modern School May 2012 #6
It's more that our universities keep putting out tons of grads. knitter4democracy May 2012 #7
Limit our class sizes too Modern School May 2012 #8
It feels like part of a strategy to degrade the profession & public education. DirkGently May 2012 #4
No district is hiring in Pa. JPZenger May 2012 #5
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. For the past thirty years or so I've been amazed at the number
Tue May 29, 2012, 10:44 PM
May 2012

of people I've known who acquired teaching degrees and then either never taught at all, or only taught for a short time. There is something very wrong with that.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
3. In my area, we're getting 800-1000 applicants per opening.
Tue May 29, 2012, 11:02 PM
May 2012

We get those numbers even in districts that used to only get 200-400. There's a glut in Michigan, and with budget cuts, it's getting worse.

Modern School

(794 posts)
6. Glut or Gluttons for pain?
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:19 PM
May 2012

With the battering of education and teachers in Michigan, I'm flabbergasted you're getting so many applicants. Then again, doesn't MI have the highest rate of unemployment in the nation? Maybe teaching, even with the concessions, is one of the best options left in MI?

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
7. It's more that our universities keep putting out tons of grads.
Wed May 30, 2012, 11:24 PM
May 2012

Teachers are getting laid off but want to stay in teaching, huge numbers enter the profession still every year (and don't want to leave the state if they can avoid it), and so we have too many applying to too few jobs.

I wish we'd limit our numbers like doctors do.

Modern School

(794 posts)
8. Limit our class sizes too
Thu May 31, 2012, 10:57 PM
May 2012

Doctors also make sure they are paid decently and they don't have pundits and demagogues always second guessing them and trying to make it easier to fire them.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
4. It feels like part of a strategy to degrade the profession & public education.
Wed May 30, 2012, 12:13 AM
May 2012

Smash the unions. Slash the workforce. Make public education an unpopular and poorly respected profession.

Then start over, with (more) poorly paid, teachers without tenure or advocacy. Bring the whole thing down to the level of widget production, which is how Republicans conceptualize public education.

The idea is to ensure that government can provide no effective service to the public at large. The rich can always afford good schools. Why arm the middle and working class with knowledge, when they're only good for working for low wages?

And, as a bonus, they can shove nonsensical testing schemes and for-profit schools down our throats as the supposed solution.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
5. No district is hiring in Pa.
Wed May 30, 2012, 03:35 PM
May 2012

I don't think a single school district is hiring teachers this year in Pa. The richer districts are shrinking by attrition, the mid-level districts are laying off a few teachers, and the poor districts are trying to keep their doors open after massive layoffs. The state reduced funding for public schools by almost one billion dollars in 2 years, not counting inflation.

Meanwhile, Pa. graduates enormous numbers of people each year with teaching degrees. It looks bleak - because so many districts have a reservoir of laid off teachers that they will need to hire back before hiring any new folks.

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