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Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:04 PM Oct 2012

Los Angeles Times sues LAUSD over teacher performance data

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_21804083/los-angeles-times-sues-lausd-over-teacher-performance?source=rss



The Los Angeles Times has asked a judge to order the Los Angeles Unified School District to release records that would allow the newspaper to update its online database which uses student test scores to rate the performance of individual teachers.

In its lawsuit filed Oct. 12 in Los Angeles Superior Court, the Times claims the school district illegally denied or omitted details of the information it requested under the California Public Records Act.

Although Los Angeles Unified provided updated test scores it used to gauge a teacher's performance - a formula known Academic Growth over Time - the district withheld the teachers' names and the schools where they worked, citing privacy concerns, the suit said.

The district also changed the teacher identification numbers it had used to release test scores from 2002-2009, making it impossible for the Times to connect teachers with AGT scores for subsequent years, the suit said.

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RIP Rigoberto Ruelas
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Los Angeles Times sues LAUSD over teacher performance data (Original Post) Starry Messenger Oct 2012 OP
I guess they didn't learn their lesson Confusious Oct 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author bluestateguy Oct 2012 #2
Its public data and the attempt to hide it is most likely illegal ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #3
they rewrote the rules to attack teachers. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #8
The teachers have enough political pull left in the CA legislature to fix this ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #11
lol. sure they do, that's why they're being laid off, fired, chartered & slandered in the papers. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #12
Education unions have still have some pull in the CA legislature ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #13
The aggregate data should be enough bluestateguy Oct 2012 #4
In many cases they can get access to public employee pay grades and salaries ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #5
The lawsuit seems bass-ackwards. Reader Rabbit Oct 2012 #6
I thought the same thing. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #9
UTLA LWolf Oct 2012 #10
asshats. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #7
I don't get it savebigbird Oct 2012 #14

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
1. I guess they didn't learn their lesson
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

When a couple of good teachers commited suicide because of the times printing the list.

Response to Starry Messenger (Original post)

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
3. Its public data and the attempt to hide it is most likely illegal
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:14 PM
Oct 2012

While I sympathize with the teachers, bureaucrats just don't get to rewrite the rules when they want to.

Get the state to change the law...

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
11. The teachers have enough political pull left in the CA legislature to fix this
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:29 AM
Oct 2012

I am surprised that they have not.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
12. lol. sure they do, that's why they're being laid off, fired, chartered & slandered in the papers.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:39 PM
Oct 2012

because of all their political pull.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
4. The aggregate data should be enough
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

Each school has aggregate data for their test scores and that should be enough.

The media cannot demand performance evaluations of every person who happens to be a public employee. Next thing you know they'd be able to look into people's tax returns, or other details of their personal life.

This would not set a good precedent.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. In many cases they can get access to public employee pay grades and salaries
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:12 PM
Oct 2012

Welcome to being a public employee

Reader Rabbit

(2,625 posts)
6. The lawsuit seems bass-ackwards.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

Even if LAUSD wasn't suing the times, maybe UTLA would. Or at least Rigoberto Ruelas' family.

savebigbird

(417 posts)
14. I don't get it
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:06 AM
Oct 2012

How does public humiliation of teachers benefit students? Does it make teachers work harder? Nope. Teachers already work hard because they take their jobs seriously and care about their students deeply. So while newspapers such as these may shed light on the ineffective teachers, think of how many effective teachers are taunted by the prospect of having their names slandered for all to see. This does not benefit our children. It just makes it more difficult and more stressful to teach them.

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