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Tue May 10, 2016, 07:01 PM

 

Another way of visualizing the temperature

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Reply Another way of visualizing the temperature (Original post)
GliderGuider May 2016 OP
Kilgore May 2016 #1
LiberalArkie May 2016 #2
Kilgore May 2016 #3
scscholar May 2016 #4
GliderGuider May 2016 #5
Kilgore May 2016 #7
GliderGuider May 2016 #6
mackdaddy May 2016 #8
Canoe52 May 2016 #9

Response to GliderGuider (Original post)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:05 PM

1. Please post a source

Want to see how they account for measurement error. Measurement technique in terms of accuracy, and repeatability have changed since 1850.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #1)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:09 PM

2. If they took the NWS figures they would be ok. NWS data is "juggled" so the 32degrees on a 2016

electronic thermometer is the same temp as one from the first reading. Like all the barometric pressure readings are given for the pressure at sea level.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #2)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:16 PM

3. My point exactly

Historical data is meaningless unless one understands the methodology to normalize it to a common reference.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #1)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:19 PM

4. That's why they're adjusted

 

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #1)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:29 PM

5. The original was tweeted by Ed Hawkins.

 

https://twitter.com/ed_hawkins
Perhaps you could ask him?
I have no connection to him, but the data is here:
https://crudata.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/#datdow

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #5)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:32 PM

7. Thank you

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Response to GliderGuider (Original post)

Tue May 10, 2016, 07:31 PM

6. Hawkins also re-teweeted this graphic by Tim Osborn

 

Not as punchy as the one above or The Spiral, but still gets the point across.

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #6)

Wed May 11, 2016, 08:21 AM

8. It will be "interesting" to see where this graph goes over the next few years.

This years spike in temperature looks like the 1998 el nino spike that the deniers used for the supposed "pause".

With some of the stored ocean heat energy released, the global temperature may drop for a year or two like in previous events. This of course if this happens it will be used by the deniers as the end of global warming, if this occurs.

But I think that it may be possible that we have reached a new phase and we may NOT see a dip or even pause in the global temperature rise. We may have activated enough of the positive feedback loops predicted to just keep going up at unprecedented rates.

Not that we can do much about this now, just interesting to speculate since this graph is pretty much charting the end of civilization as well as global temperature trends.....

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Response to mackdaddy (Reply #8)

Wed May 11, 2016, 10:56 PM

9. Sad to say

I finally came to that conclusion myself. What a bitch it is to watch the beginning of the end.

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