Unprecedented, Jet Stream Crosses Equator

[GliderGuider]

Unprecedented, Jet Stream Crosses Equator


The jet stream in the Northern Hemisphere has crossed the equator and joined up with the jet stream in the Southern Hemisphere. This is new behaviour, and indicates that climate system mayhem is ongoing.



Welcome to climate chaos. We must declare a global climate emergency.

We must declare a global climate emergency.

but...

We will not declare a global climate emergency.

It doesn't really matter, though. The changes are now well under way, and would continue even if we did issue such a proclamation.

So just bury yourself in party politics or your job. They will keep you well insulated for a while longer as your previous reality breaks down around you.

[Kelvin Mace]

1. I have said repeatedly

that "It's the global climate change, stupid". But was told that I was wrong. I would explain, but such things gets you banned now a days.

[onecaliberal]

26. Ditto.

[GliderGuider]

2. This seems like a fitting note on which to leave.

After 12 years and almost 20,000 posts it's time to move away.

To paraphrase Heraclitus, "No man steps in the same DU twice. It's not the same DU, and he's not the same man."

This is not the DU I joined over a decade ago, and I'm not the same man.

I no longer believe that party politics (or politics of any sort for that matter) has anything to offer against the underlying existential threat of our time, the destruction of the global biosphere. After 10 years of research into the root causes of this catastrophe I have come to the realization that the best politics can do is amplify the global breakdown.

It's been a slice, folks.

[femmedem]

3. I hope you will stay, even if only to post in this group.

If not, I would welcome a list of your favorite sources for climate change-related news.

[GliderGuider]

5. FB only for me from now on.

"Bodhi Paul Chefurka"

Most of my sources pop up over there.

[truebrit71]

8. Just looked you up on FB. Seems we share a friend.

I enjoyed your posts here and will miss them.

[GliderGuider]

9. Saw ya...

Thanks for the kind words.

[mackdaddy]

12. Thanks for the link, and for your posts here.

I have always looked forward to your posts. I am still trying to slog through the morass of competing and conflicting claims in the climate change cage match.

I have pretty much come to the conclusion humanity and civilization as a whole are screwed. I am just not sure how fast and how bad. Let us just say that I do not see the "hydrogen economy" or "new nuklur" coming fast enough to save our bacon.

Thank you again, Mack

[Ghost Dog]

14. ... & see the web site, folks...

http://www.paulchefurka.ca/

Saludos from Fuerteventura

[Locrian]

4. yep

I'm trying to figure out how to make my last few years enjoyable - which means early retirement and maybe activism etc. Not sure how that will go over with my spouse.....

[appal_jack]

16. Stick-around, brother.

Different DU, and different people that we are, amplified or straight-acoustic, all the more reason to continue the discussion.

On-edit & just in case though, I just sent you a friend request via FB. Our mutual friend has the initials PL, and practices Permaculture quite well.

-app

[GliderGuider]

17. Got it. Thanks.

[StevieM]

21. I am sorry to hear that you will be leaving. I hope that at some point you will reconsider

and return to DU.

You have made a very valuable contribution to this board. The EE group will not be the same without you.

[Lilyhoney]

6. Thanks for the link.

I watched the 15 minute video. I bookmarked the site and will return.

Be well.

[FBaggins]

7. He does seem to like to use the word "unprecedented" - doesn't he?

Last one that I remember was his claim that no sea ice would survive in the arctic after a couple years ago.

In this case - he sees some wind and just declares it to be the jet stream... then it's "unprecedented" because he hasn't seen it before. It isn't just unprecedented... it's a "climate emergency"

His posts regularly contain these supposed climate emergencies... almost always followed immediately with a link to "donate now".

[CRH]

10. When the streams from two hemispheres collide, ...

probably best to find your peace where you can, watch the show without emotion, and accept what is to be, to be.
Travel with vision, and without attachment. Happy trails.

[GliderGuider]

11. Thank you.

Very much.

[Bigmack]

13. Ms Bigmack and I will miss your expertise... moving to your FB site. nt

[AZ Progressive]

15. What BS...

Tell me if you see the jet streams crossing the equator here...

http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250

I ought to sue some people here for unnecessary distress and wasting my time.

[truebrit71]

23. Good luck with that....

[Boomer]

18. I was hoping for some clarity here

Apparently this alarm is questionable. As if we didn't need another reason for people to disbelieve legitimate science. So frustrating.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/06/30/claim-that-jet-stream-crossing-equator-is-climate-emergency-is-utter-nonsense/

To be clear, the hypothesis that global warming is destabilizing the polar jet stream is a legitimate idea that has been published in peer-reviewed journals, though it remains controversial. But even the scientist who developed the hypothesis, Jennifer Francis, a professor of meteorology at Rutgers University, suggested it had been misapplied by Scribbler and Beckwith. “I’d say cross-equator flow cannot be unprecedented, maybe not even all that unusual,” she said.

[FBaggins]

19. Not from this type of source

The blogger is a long-time sky-is-falling proponent who doesn't have much of a track record for scientific rigor.

In this case, the claim is based off of a blog post from a fantasy writer who thinks that it's caused by "gigantic gravity waves" - when, historically, the connection between jet streams and gravity waves (let alone "gigantic" ones) has been in the other direction.

The author provides no evidence to believe that what he's displaying is the jet stream at all (let alone that it's unprecedented)... but he has no difficulty jumping to the conclusion that it's a sign of the climatological end times. If he ever wonders why he's little closer to that PhD in the subject after six years of effort... he need not look far.

Were GG still around, I would tease him that this is yet another example of the Malthusian error. It doesn't really matter what occurs, their intense confirmation bias forces them to conclude that it's proof of horrific collapse being imminent.

IOW - Your "questionable" is remarkably charitable.

[CRH]

22. Right about the source, outed within hours … n/t

[LouisvilleDem]

24. What is truly sad...

...is that this type of pseudo-science gets posted time and time again in this forum without repercussion. On the other hand, if you express a completely valid scientific opinion, such as claiming that IPCC climate sensitivity numbers might be a little high, you risk getting banned.

[AntiBank]

20. psuedoscience woo nt

[LouisvilleDem]

25. Unprecedented since 1979...

...which is when continuous observation of the jet stream started. In other words, in the grand scheme of things we don't really know how uncommon or common this behavior is.

[Squinch]

27. Why are you being snotty to the people reading your thread? "So just bury yourself in party

politics or your job" etc.

What are you doing that's so much more effective in battling this situation than everyone else, who you clearly consider oblivious and irresponsible?

[SheilaT]

29. Already debunked. At least several days ago.

This is exactly the sort of thing that invariably cries out for double checking, rather than immediately reposting.