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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 02:53 PM Jun 2017

Methane not escaping into the atmosphere from Arctic Ocean

https://cage.uit.no/news/methane-not-escaping-into-the-atmosphere-arctic-ocean/
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[font size=5]Methane not escaping into the atmosphere from Arctic Ocean[/font]

[font size=4]Methane gas released from the Arctic seabed during the summer months leads to an increased methane concentration in the ocean. But surprisingly, very little of the climate gas rising up through the sea reaches the atmosphere.[/font]

[font size=3]“Our results are exciting and controversial”, says senior scientist Cathrine Lund Myhre from NILU – Norwegian Institute for Air Research, who is cooperating with CAGE through MOCA project.

The results were published in Geophysical Research Letters.

The scientist performed simultaneous measurements close to seabed, in the ocean and in the atmosphere during an extensive ship and air campaign offshore Svalbard Archipelago in summer 2014. As of today, three independent models employing the marine and atmospheric measurements show that the methane emissions from the sea bed in the area did not significantly affect the atmosphere.

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http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/2016GL068999.
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Methane not escaping into the atmosphere from Arctic Ocean (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author defacto7 Jun 2017 #1
"The arguments are futile and contradictory." OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #2
Nope... defacto7 Jun 2017 #3
Don't get me wrong, the situation is serious, even dire OKIsItJustMe Jun 2017 #4
I agree with your philosophy. defacto7 Jun 2017 #5

Response to OKIsItJustMe (Original post)

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
2. "The arguments are futile and contradictory."
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 03:05 PM
Jun 2017

Are all views equally valid?

If I say that within 10 years, I will have developed the ability to flap my arms and fly to the moon, and aeronautical engineers say otherwise, is the issue left, uh… well… “up in the air?”

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
4. Don't get me wrong, the situation is serious, even dire
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 04:08 PM
Jun 2017

However, spreading bad science tends to make people question good science (especially when, in ten years, in spite of withdrawing from the Paris agreement, we’re not all extinct.)

I look at it this way:

Let's say that the Polly Anna "scientists" are all wrong, and that humanity will be extinct within a decade, no matter what we do. OK, so, what harm would there be in making an effort to avoid our inevitable fate?

On the other hand, what if they're right? What if there is a chance, even a small chance, of avoiding that fate. What if, by making an effort, like the Paris agreement, we can at least improve our lot?

There are a number of things (like the methane seeps for example) which, upon close inspection are not as bad as they appeared at first.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. I agree with your philosophy.
Wed Jun 28, 2017, 05:05 PM
Jun 2017

And if the, as you put it, Polly Anna scientists are wrong, of what use is it to know they're wrong? Not much.

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