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Related: About this forumHear Ye, Hear Ye, Step Right Up For A Systematic Demolition Of Micheal Shellenberger's "Apology"
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Michael Shellenberger appears to have a talent for self-promotion. His book, provocatively entitled Apocalypse Never appears to be garnering considerable attention. What does he mean by that title? Does it mean we should do whatever we can to avoid an apocalypse? Does it mean that no apocalypse is possible in the foreseeable future? For those of us who havent yet read the book (now available on Kindle), Shellenberger provides an unusual article (at first posted on Forbes, then at Quillette and the front page of the Australian) which appears less a summary than a sales pitch, an op-ad as one Twitter wag put it. Its called On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare. In short, Shellenberger lands clearly on the naysayer soil. Not much to see, everyone. Cheer up, carry on, these are not the droids youre looking for.
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THE TWELVE POINTS
1) Humans are not causing a sixth mass extinction
In a literal sense this claim has its defenders. See Earth is Not In the Middle of a Sixth Mass Extinction. The article quotes Smithsonian paleontologist Doug Erwin, who wrote to me in an email:.
Many of those making facile comparisons between the current situation and past mass extinctions dont have a clue about the difference in the nature of the data, much less how truly awful the mass extinctions recorded in the marine fossil record actually were. It is absolutely critical to recognize that I am NOT claiming that humans havent done great damage to marine and terrestrial [ecosystems], nor that many extinctions have not occurred and more will certainly occur in the near future. But I do think that as scientists we have a responsibility to be accurate about such comparisons
I think that if we keep things up long enough, well get to a mass extinction, but were not in a mass extinction yet, and I think thats an optimistic discovery because that means we actually have time to avoid Armageddon
I leave it to the reader as to whether not in a mass extinction yet is reassuring. While there are several possible understandings of mass extinction, its generally agreed that we are indeed losing species at a rapid rate. Erwin is pointing out that the vast majority of life isnt collapsing, that we arent collapsing into a nearly lifeless planet Yet. Will people reading Shellenbergers quote get the message were not in a mass extinction yet,
we actually have time to avoid Armageddon? I venture that if they read about it in a book called Apocalypse Never they wont. Is this related to something we might call The Climate Scare? Not yet. Climate is only a secondary feature of species loss so far, although there are plenty of signs of a climate impact in whats left of natural ecosystems.
VALIDITY Valid only provisionally and somewhat of a semantic quibble.
RELEVANCE TO CLIMATE Speculative; if we dont get a handle on climate change, climate change will make it worse.
SALIENCE This one is genuinely scary, so its okay to be scared about it.
IMPLICATION You are presumably meant to read this claim as This talk about a sixth extinction is typical climate alarmist scaremongering
REALITY We are not literally in a mass extinction event yet but we are on the brink of one. Its not really a climate scare topic but its related, and enormous. It seems utterly bizarre for someone claiming to speak on behalf of environmentalists to minimise it.
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http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2020/07/shellenbergers-op-ad/
hunter
(38,311 posts)There's quite a lot to digest in this article and comments.
Thanks for posting it.
CatLady78
(1,041 posts)I can't recollect the specifics but I have been seeing this guy around and I thought he had that Bjorn Lomborg ( ) vibe.....
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