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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Sat May 5, 2012, 05:41 PM May 2012

What did Edison think about the way we should get our electricity?

When Mayor Michael Bloomberg recently announced his vision of development in New York City over the next 25 years, he highlighted a plan to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by 30 percent. To anyone who has studied the history of power consumption in the United States, his proposal sounded a curious echo. New York, after all, was home to one of the country’s first central power stations, built by Thomas Edison in 1882. No individual deserves more credit, or blame, for America’s voracious electricity consumption than Edison, who conceived not only that generating station but also the notoriously inefficient incandescent bulb and a slew of volt-thirsty devices.



Thomas Edison holding one of the batteries used to power his early electric car, the Baker.

Yet Edison, godfather of electricity-intensive living, was also an unlikely green pioneer whose ideas about renewable power still resonate today. At the turn of the 20th century, when Edison was at the height of his career, the notion that buildings, which now account for more than a third of all energy consumed in the United States, would someday require large amounts of power was only just coming into focus. Where that power would come from — central generating stations or in-home plants; fossil fuels or renewable resources — was still very much up for debate.

A 1901 article about Edison in The Atlanta Constitution described how his unorthodox ideas about batteries could bring wattage to the countryside: “With a windmill coupled to a small electric generator,” a rural inhabitant “could bottle up enough current to give him light at night.” The earliest wind-powered house was fired up in Cleveland in 1888 by the inventor Charles Brush, but Edison aspired to take the technology to the masses. He made drawings of a windmill to power a cluster of four to six homes, and in 1911 he pitched manufacturers on building a prototype.

Edison’s batteries also fueled some cars and trucks, and he joined forces with Henry Ford to develop an electric automobile that would be as affordable and practical as the Model T. The Constitution article discussed plans to let people recharge their batteries at plug-in sites along trolley lines; the batteries could also be refreshed courtesy of the home windmill.

Talented not only at devising new technologies...



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/magazine/03wwln-essay-t.html?_r=1
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What did Edison think about the way we should get our electricity? (Original Post) kristopher May 2012 OP
Nikola Tesla riverbendviewgal May 2012 #1
Tesla for sure Politicalboi May 2012 #2
Tesla EC May 2012 #4
Is it mutually exclusive for them both to have great ideas and both be brilliant? kristopher May 2012 #6
Tesla, who also was a human being unlike Edison. NYC_SKP May 2012 #7
I was wanting to read the rest madokie May 2012 #3
It is still working for me kristopher May 2012 #5
Try this, madokie: NYC_SKP May 2012 #8
Thanks but I guess I'm just out of luck madokie May 2012 #9
"Internal Combustion" by Edwin Black tells the story.....nt dougolat May 2012 #10
Edison also wanted our electricity to be DC PamW May 2012 #11
You're just being rude for the sake of being rude--typical of what you post. diane in sf May 2012 #12
What's rude? PamW May 2012 #13
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
2. Tesla for sure
Sat May 5, 2012, 06:27 PM
May 2012

The man was brilliant, and Edison screwed him over. I wonder if Bill Gates is related to Edison.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. Is it mutually exclusive for them both to have great ideas and both be brilliant?
Sat May 5, 2012, 07:25 PM
May 2012

I'm pretty sure that is possible...

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. Tesla, who also was a human being unlike Edison.
Sat May 5, 2012, 08:11 PM
May 2012

Edison, marketer of other peoples' ideas.

Swindled Tesla, in Fact.

Bastard.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. It is still working for me
Sat May 5, 2012, 07:23 PM
May 2012

Don't know what to say except maybe google the first sentence and then follow their link.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. Thanks but I guess I'm just out of luck
Sat May 5, 2012, 09:50 PM
May 2012

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PamW

(1,825 posts)
11. Edison also wanted our electricity to be DC
Sun May 6, 2012, 02:52 PM
May 2012

Edison also wanted our electricity to be DC, and not AC.

So why should we care in the 21st century what Edison would have done?

PamW

PamW

(1,825 posts)
13. What's rude?
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:16 AM
May 2012

Last edited Wed May 9, 2012, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

What's rude about pointing out that Edison favored DC over AC??

It's a good thing we went with AC. Do you like watching TV? Do you know why TV's refresh their screens at a rate of 60 times per second? ( The old 480i "interlaced" NTSC TV format refreshed half the TV lines - odd lines on one sweep, even lines the next sweep - at 60 times per second so the net refresh rate was 30 frames per second ).

The reason TVs refreshed their screens at 60 times per second is that they used the 60 Hz or 60 cycles per second AC power as a timing reference. We wouldn't be able to do that with DC power, because there's no timing reference.

Electric clocks also work off the 60 Hz power as a timing reference.

Edison didn't anticipate the need for electric power to also serve as a timing reference. So why be bound to what Edison wanted?

PamW

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