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hatrack

(59,578 posts)
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:09 PM Jul 2021

Evaporating Reservoirs, Flaming Forests, Fruit Cooked On The Tree: When Do We Act?

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I got to see the drought up close when I spent a week in June floating down the Green River, the Colorado River’s largest tributary. The skies of southern Utah were full of smoke from the Pack Creek wildfire that had been burning since June 9 near Moab, scorching thousands of acres of desert and forest and incinerating the ranch buildings and archives of the legendary river guide and environmentalist Ken Slight (fictionalized as Seldom Seen Slim in Edward Abbey’s novel The Monkey Wrench Gang), now 91. Climate chaos destroys the past as well as the future. As of July 6, the fire is still burning.

It wasn’t just the huge plume of smoke that filled us with dread about the adventure to come; the weather forecast of daily temperatures reaching 106 F made living out of doors for a week seem daunting. Water level in the river was far lower than normal and due to drop a lot more; the temperature on our rafts and kayaks just above the water was tolerable – but as soon as you walked any distance from the river’s edge, the heat came at you as though you’d opened an oven door. We saw an unusual amount of wildlife on the trip too – mustangs, bighorn sheep, a lean black bear and her two cubs pacing the river’s edge – but any sense of wonder was tempered by the likelihood that thirst had driven them down from the drought-scorched stretches beyond the river. We need a new word for that feeling for nature that is love and wonder mingled with dread and sorrow, for when we see those things that are still beautiful, still powerful, but struggling under the burden of our mistakes.

Then came the heat dome over the Northwest, a story that didn’t appear to make the top headlines of many media outlets as it was happening. Much of the early coverage showed people in fountains and sprinklers as though this was just another hot day, rather than something sending people to hospitals in droves, killing hundreds (and likely well over a thousand) in Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia, devastating wildlife, crops, and domestic animals, setting up the conditions for wildfires, and breaking infrastructure designed for the holocene, not the anthropocene. It signified something much larger even than a crisis impacting a vast expanse of the continent: increasingly wild variations from the norm with increasing devastation that can and will happen anywhere. It seemed to get less coverage than the collapse of part of a single building in Florida.

A building collapsing is an ideal specimen of news, sudden and specific in time and place, and in the case of this one on the Florida coast, easy for the media to cover as a spectacle with straightforward causes and consequences. A crisis spread across three states and two Canadian provinces, with many kinds of impact, including untallied deaths, was in many ways its antithesis. There was a case to be made that climate change – in the form of rising saltwater intrusion – was a factor in the Florida building’s collapse, but climate change was far more dramatically present in the Pacific Northwest’s heat records being broken day after day and the consequences of that heat. In Canada the previous highest temperature was broken by eight degrees Fahrenheit, a big lurch into the dangerous new conditions human beings have made, and then most of the town in which that record was set burned down.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/12/our-climate-change-turning-point-is-right-here-right-now

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Evaporating Reservoirs, Flaming Forests, Fruit Cooked On The Tree: When Do We Act? (Original Post) hatrack Jul 2021 OP
Should have acted decades ago! PortTack Jul 2021 #1
Now stop to ponder this... Moostache Jul 2021 #2
Well stated Mickju Jul 2021 #9
it's so sad and scary... I am really worried FirstLight Jul 2021 #3
The rich don't care. They'll be able to move where ever and built giant retreats captain queeg Jul 2021 #4
Perhaps we'll act after Trump spontaneously combusts in mid-rant during one of his rallies. sop Jul 2021 #5
As always, we will wait to act until it's far too late. nt Binkie The Clown Jul 2021 #6
But but it's hard to recycle windmills and solar panels and they only last TWENTY YEARS Shermann Jul 2021 #7
Yeah.. Deuxcents Jul 2021 #8
I'm pretty sure Mars is safe Shermann Jul 2021 #10

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
2. Now stop to ponder this...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:17 PM
Jul 2021

The current effects are a reflection of greenhouse gases pumped into the atmosphere PREVIOUSLY...things are getting wonky all over the planet and worse and worse by the incident...

We are now pumping GREATER amounts of these same gases every day. Day after Day. Week after week. Month after month. Year after year.

The full impact of what has already been done, been baked into the proverbial planetary cake, has not yet been felt in its entirety. We blew past any rationale point where reversal was possible and went straight up to the existential line we are nearing now...the point beyond which it is a run away equation and beyond any ability to change it.

The planet is fine.
The people are not.

We're going away, and we're taking everything else bigger than a roach with us.

The climate will fluctuate and regulate again and evolution with replace Homo Sapiens with a new apex species. Do not be troubled by this - T. Rex is not running around pining for the days of yore, and neither shall any of us.

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
3. it's so sad and scary... I am really worried
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jul 2021

How can we turn this around? it's already too late in so many ways...

I am weeping internally at every news story... I feel that dread and fail to feel that there is any future worth planning. How can I even expect my newly adult children to think about their goals and dreams when we may well all cook to death in the next 5 years.

terrifying

sad

desolate

captain queeg

(10,103 posts)
4. The rich don't care. They'll be able to move where ever and built giant retreats
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jul 2021

The dumbasses who deny it are the same ones denying Covid and believing in a flat earth. Mankind is not looking ahead at all. The poor will suffer the worst, as always. It’s a terrible situation.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
7. But but it's hard to recycle windmills and solar panels and they only last TWENTY YEARS
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jul 2021

This is one of the more unpalatable conservative talking points I've heard.

Cars only last half that, and rarely do you hear about that being a problem.

Printers are obsolete after a year or two, but we can just keep making cheap ones and chucking the old ones in landfills.

Televisions used to last 20 years, but now only last 8 or so. Big deal.

No, it's the artificial mountain range of old windmills and solar panels we should be concerned with.





Deuxcents

(16,090 posts)
8. Yeah..
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jul 2021

Let’s go to outer space..colonize Mars and screw up that planet. Those of us here and now who care about this issue will see our crops whither even more until there’s a food shortage if we can even afford them. Then real trouble as desperate people will do desperate things just to eat n survive. Can’t believe I’m even seeing this in my lifetime even tho I’ve heard and read the warnings for years. I fear for my grandkids...

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
10. I'm pretty sure Mars is safe
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jul 2021

I don't think there is any profit to be made by junking up the place.

I'm pretty sure, anyway.

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