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On Thursday, a strange scene unfolded at the International Conference Centre in Edinburgh. Shell CEO Ben van Beurden took the stage with a prominent climate scientist and Christiana Figueres, the woman who negotiated the Paris Agreement, at a TED Countdown conference. Van Beurden was there to ostensibly talk up the climate bona fides of one of the largest oil companies in the world that has promised to get to net zero while simultaneously fighting against a Dutch court ruling requiring it to lay out concrete plans to reduce emissions. Instead, he was roasted by youth activists for Shells complicity in worsening the climate crisis and egregious human rights abuses.
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The Shell CEO shared the stage with Scottish climate activist Lauren MacDonald, Figueres, and Chris James, the founder of Engine No. 1, the small fund that led an Exxon shareholder revolt earlier this year. During van Beurdens talk, he blamed consumers for using so much oil, a note hes sounded before, and said his daughter asked him if he was destroying the planet. His response, according to a Twitter DM from social entrepreneur and B Corp movement supporter in France Elizabeth Soubelet, who was in the room, was, Do you trust me to do the right thing for you?
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MacDonald was finally invited to ask van Beurden a question, and things changed quickly. She said shed like to offer a little bit of context for the CEOs remarks. According to a source with knowledge of the matter, TED organizers helped MacDonald write a question and toned down her speech, but the one she gave was not the one TED organizers were expecting her to give. Looking van Beurden straight in the face, she explained that Shell is pushing a plan to build a new oil field in Cambo, off the coast of her home country. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself, she said.
MacDonald went on to say that Van Beurden is responsible for so much death and suffering and called him one of the most evil people in the world, as she broke into tears. She chronicled Shells long history of knowingly polluting the planet and ushering in the climate crisis. She also called the company out for its reported complicity in the horrific killing of Nigerian activists in the 1990s. If youre going to sit here and act like you care about climate action, why are you appealing the recent court ruling that Shell must decrease its emissions by 45% by 2030? she asked, referring to a landmark May ruling from a Dutch court. Will you repeal this?
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https://gizmodo.com/shell-ceo-roasted-at-ted-climate-conference-he-was-fool-1847862767?rev=1634231783651
SWBTATTReg
(22,110 posts)this concept, to attack, to vilify, instead of allowing the CEO the opportunity to speak as he was invited to do, and also deny audience members the ability to actually listen to one of the CEOs of one of the companies at the heart of climate change issues.
I fear that she has damaged her reputation and will be less able to effect change in the future due to her behavior as who in their right mind would want to sit down w/ her in the same room? After all, we all do need to sit down together to solve one of the biggest issues facing mankind, and this is not done by attacking one another.
hatrack
(59,583 posts)Because they had no idea what was going on, and they really care about the future.
'Time is Running Out,' American Petroleum Institute Chief Said in 1965 Speech on Climate Change
And 1965, according to a letter by Stanford historian Benjamin Franta published this week in the peer-reviewed journal Nature, was the year that President Johnsons Science Advisory Committee published a report titled Restoring the Quality of Our Environment, whose findings Ikard described at that years annual API meeting. One of the most important predictions of the report is that carbon dioxide is being added to the Earths atmosphere by the burning of coal, oil, and natural gas at such a rate that by the year 2000 the heat balance will be so modified as possibly to cause marked changes in climate beyond local or even national efforts, Ikard presciently added, according to excerpts from his speech published in Nature.
https://www.desmog.com/2018/11/20/american-petroleum-institute-1965-speech-climate-change-oil-gas/
Exxon Confirmed Global Warming Consensus in 1982 with In-House Climate Models
Over the past several years a clear scientific consensus has emerged regarding the expected climatic effects of increased atmospheric CO2, Cohen wrote to A.M. Natkin of Exxon Corporations Science and Technology Office in 1982. The consensus is that a doubling of atmospheric CO2 from its pre-industrial revolution value would result in an average global temperature rise of (3.0 ± 1.5)°C. (Equal to 5.4 ± 2.7°F). There is unanimous agreement in the scientific community that a temperature increase of this magnitude would bring about significant changes in the earths climate, including rainfall distribution and alterations in the biosphere.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/22092015/exxon-confirmed-global-warming-consensus-in-1982-with-in-house-climate-models/
Big oil and gas kept a dirty secret for decades. Now they may pay the price
Exxons chairman and chief executive, Lee Raymond, told industry executives in 1996 that scientific evidence remains inconclusive as to whether human activities affect global climate. Its a long and dangerous leap to conclude that we should, therefore, cut fossil fuel use, he said. Documents show that his companys scientists were telling Exxons management that the real danger lay in the failure to do exactly that.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jun/30/climate-crimes-oil-and-gas-environment
The Big Oil Side Hustle: Where 'Renewable' Money Is Really Going
"Last Year" - 2019.
SWBTATTReg
(22,110 posts)beliefs. This lady disrupted the good spirit of the TED talks.
Obviously some don't care about providing a safe environment for people in the fossil fuels industry to come (and hear others on the other side of the issue talk too) and talk to audiences, and the TED talks invites a spirit of cooperation, but this didn't happen because of this.
Even in a court of law, both sides have a right to present their sides.
You miss the whole point of what I'm talking about, the disruption to the TED talks, regardless of the fossil fuel industry or environmentalists positions. Now, these parties are further apart. Way to go in bringing different parties together so at least to start a dialogue.
hatrack
(59,583 posts)You do you.
SWBTATTReg
(22,110 posts)like trump's thugs did one time in stifling discord among rally audience members, because they had contrary beliefs, etc. Nice to see a touch of trump's behavior on DU.
hatrack
(59,583 posts).
NNadir
(33,512 posts)...aren't really against climate change, specifically their low rate of spending on "renewable energy."
So called "renewable energy" has been a real boon for the fossil fuel companies. Not only has faith in it allowed for accelerating growth in the use of dangerous fossil fuels, as we're seeing in Europe, it's leading to record prices for dangerous natural gas, petroleum, and now coal.
The fossil fuel companies can certainly raise their profits by buying into this popular public religion. They can secure their future, get better prices for their products, while increasing the consumption of their products. It's also good for public relations, since the public is easily invested in delusional wishful thinking.
It's worked spectacularly well. We saw 420 ppm of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere in April of this year (the week beginning April 25, 2021), less than 10 years after we first saw 400 ppm (the week beginning May 26, 2013), a little under 8 years. To get from the first reading of 380 ppm (April 4, 2004) to 400 ppm took a little over 9 years. This takes us back to around the time the world undertook to spend trillion dollar sums on solar and wind energy.
Before we entered seriously into this benighted scheme at the trillion dollar level, we first reached 360 ppm in the week beginning May 24, 1992, meaning it took 12 years back then to get to to 380 ppm.
I would say that Energiewende is playing out well for the future revenue of the gas industry, the petroleum industry, and the coal industry since Germany apparently needs to burn lots of coal this winter.
If I were Shell, Exxon, BP, Chevron and so on, I'd cheer as loudly for so called "renewable energy" as anyone here does. It's been doing great for their business.
Or did I miss something? Did these trillion dollar expenditures on "renewable energy" slow the rate of climate deterioration? I seem to recall prediction after prediction after prediction that would have eliminate fossil fuel use, first "by 1990," then "by 2000," then "by 2010," then "by 2020." Which "by" are we at now? I've lost track.
Finishline42
(1,091 posts)The problem isn't wind and solar, the problem is increasing population and energy use.
Sadly, we are in a negative feedback loop where it's getting hotter which increases the energy needed for cooling.
The spike in nat gas prices will change the economics and further the purchase/installation of new wind and solar.
hunter
(38,310 posts)If the fossil fuel industry cant adapt this reality and goes bankrupt, so be it.