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Related: About this forumNY Times: Inside the Global Race to Turn Water Into Fuel
Inside the Global Race to Turn Water Into Fuel
Hundreds of billions of dollars are being invested in a high-tech gamble to make hydrogen clean, cheap and widely available. In Australias Outback, that starts with 10 million new solar panels.
New Your Times | Max Bearak | March 11, 2023
For eons this has been a quiet, unremarkable place. Thousands of square miles of flat land covered in shrubs and red dirt. The sun is withering and the wind blows hard.
It is exactly those features that qualify this remote parcel of the Australian Outback for an imminent transformation. A consortium of energy companies led by BP plans to cover an expanse of land eight times as large as New York City with as many as 1,743 wind turbines, each nearly as tall as the Empire State Building, along with 10 million or so solar panels and more than a thousand miles of access roads to connect them all.
But none of the 26 gigawatts of energy the site expects to produce, equivalent to a third of what Australias grid currently requires, will go toward public use. Instead, it will be used to manufacture a novel kind of industrial fuel: green hydrogen...
...For Fortescue, the math is simple. Every year, each of its mines in the Pilbara expands outward at least a couple miles. While the company is developing 15-ton batteries to replace the diesel engines on some of its ore haulers, the mine at Christmas Creek, for instance, is already too sprawling for total reliance on batteries: New, battery-powered haulers just wont have the range for the mines farthest reaches...more
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/11/climate/green-hydrogen-energy.html
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NY Times: Inside the Global Race to Turn Water Into Fuel (Original Post)
Caribbeans
Mar 2023
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"New, battery-powered haulers just won't have the range for the mines' farthest reaches"
NickB79
Mar 2023
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NickB79
(19,257 posts)1. "New, battery-powered haulers just won't have the range for the mines' farthest reaches"
Good thing solid-state batteries are now promising DOUBLE the range of current lithium-ion batteries. Then you won't need to consume vast quantities of incredibly precious fossil groundwater to generate hydrogen.
https://driving.ca/car-culture/auto-tech/hondas-new-solid-state-batteries-could-double-range-and-lower-cost
NNadir
(33,538 posts)2. Anyone who gets their "science" from the New York Times, deserves it.
There's no "race." There's no new technology. It's been too expensive and too dirty for generations, and all the hype in the world can't really change that.
Caribbeans
(776 posts)3. Handy list of everyone in Australia that gives a Flying F what "Nuke" Nadir thinks about hydrogen:
NNadir
(33,538 posts)4. Oh. Apparently the people who own the New York Times credit cheap marketing.
They're very good at marketing, that's for sure.
Like many cheap marketeers, they seem not to know the 2nd law of thermodynamics either.
Personally, I have no respect for anyone selling ignorance, as I make clear, so there's that...