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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(137,348 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 08:49 PM Mar 2023

Scientists uncover startling concentrations of pure DDT along seafloor off L.A. coast

First it was the eerie images of barrels leaking on the seafloor not far from Catalina Island. Then the shocking realization that the nation’s largest manufacturer of DDT had once used the ocean as a huge dumping ground — and that as many as half a million barrels of its acid waste had been poured straight into the water.

Now, scientists have discovered that much of the DDT — which had been dumped largely in the 1940s and ‘50s — never broke down. The chemical remains in its most potent form in startlingly high concentrations, spread across a wide swath of seafloor larger than the city of San Francisco.

"We still see original DDT on the seafloor from 50, 60, 70 years ago, which tells us that it's not breaking down the way that [we] once thought it should,” said UC Santa Barbara scientist David Valentine, who shared these preliminary findings Thursday during a research update with more than 90 people working on the issue. "And what we're seeing now is that there is DDT that has ended up all over the place, not just within this tight little circle on a map that we referred to as Dumpsite Two."

These revelations confirm some of the science community's deepest concerns — and further complicate efforts to understand DDT's toxic and insidious legacy in California. Public calls for action have intensified since The Times reported in 2020 that dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, banned in 1972, is still haunting the marine environment today. Significant amounts of DDT-related compounds continue to accumulate in California condors and local dolphin populations, and a recent study linked the presence of this once-popular pesticide to an aggressive cancer in sea lions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/scientists-uncover-startling-concentrations-of-pure-ddt-along-seafloor-off-l-a-coast/ar-AA190cNy

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Scientists uncover startling concentrations of pure DDT along seafloor off L.A. coast (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2023 OP
good work by the LA Times on first exposing this.... bahboo Mar 2023 #1
I wonder if there's any way of cleaning some of that up. BWdem4life Mar 2023 #2
i cant imagine being able to do it w/o stirring it up and spreading it more. mopinko Mar 2023 #3
There is, but it won't be popular. NNadir Mar 2023 #5
There are people still living orthoclad Mar 2023 #4

BWdem4life

(3,084 posts)
2. I wonder if there's any way of cleaning some of that up.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 09:35 PM
Mar 2023

Where there's a will, there's a way. Probably there isn't the will.

mopinko

(73,921 posts)
3. i cant imagine being able to do it w/o stirring it up and spreading it more.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:13 PM
Mar 2023

an area as big as san fran….

NNadir

(38,530 posts)
5. There is, but it won't be popular.
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:53 PM
Mar 2023

Recalcitrant highly stable organohalides are subject to radiolysis with ionizing radiation.

orthoclad

(4,818 posts)
4. There are people still living
Thu Mar 23, 2023, 10:43 PM
Mar 2023

who personally approved dumping this stuff.

Send them out with a straw.

If they're dead, confiscate their estates for the cleanup.

Yet another case of the world dealing with petrochemical cleanup. Or like those dolphins and condors, living and dying with the poison.

Privatize the profits, socialize the costs.

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