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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:21 AM Sep 2014

Naomi Klein to Degrowth Conference: Climate Change Can Deliver 'People's Shock'

Naomi Klein to Degrowth Conference: Climate Change Can Deliver 'People's Shock'

"The premise from which my book begins is one that I think we all pretty much agree on," Klein said, "that when it comes to addressing the climate crisis, we ... have failed catastrophically."

The "status quo is not an option," Klein said. "Radical change of some kind, whether physical or political, are our only options left. This is why the climate crisis challenges centrist liberals most of all because they subscribe to an ideology that is so resistant to the idea of radical change, to the idea of anything but incremental, reformist change."

As she argues in This Changes Everything, she said in her address that "our failure, most of all, has to do with the tragic, bad timing of this particular crisis." Scientific consensus on emissions-drive carbon crisis has been in for over 50 years, yet it took until the late 1980s when noted climate scientist James Hansen testified before Congress about the link between emissions and warming for it to hit a turning point in North America, she explained. Yet, she said, this same moment in time marked a so-called triumph of "liberal ideology." It was the time of the rise of "free trade" and WTO trade tribunals, austerity policies that clash with measures that could prevent and deal with climate disruption, the global north's refusal to own up to climate debts it owes the global south, and the privatization of energy sector fueled by profit motive. These liberal triumphs "systematically sabotaged the actions that were needed to respond to this crisis," she charged.

At the core of this, she said, is the notion that the climate crisis "is a civilizational wake-up call, a powerful message spoken in the language of fires, floods, droughts and extinctions, telling us that we need an entirely new economic model, a new way of sharing the planet, telling us that we need to evolve."

An entirely new economic model, a new way of sharing the planet, and we need to evolve...

Is that all? Hey, we'll get right on it! The 20 or 30 years we have left should be enough for that, right?
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Naomi Klein to Degrowth Conference: Climate Change Can Deliver 'People's Shock' (Original Post) GliderGuider Sep 2014 OP
Frogs Sitting In A Slowly Warming Pan Of Water - Nothing Will Move The Centerists cantbeserious Sep 2014 #1
I think humans are collectively too greedy-stupid to evolve. Triana Sep 2014 #2
Humans are the planetary apex predator, and the entire biosphere is our prey. GliderGuider Sep 2014 #3
What evolves by itself? The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #4
We are an evolutionary hyper-success story. GliderGuider Sep 2014 #5
evolution proceeds via the death of children phantom power Sep 2014 #6
 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
2. I think humans are collectively too greedy-stupid to evolve.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:58 AM
Sep 2014

Parasites never evolve mid-infestation. N E V E R. Until it's catastrophic and the parasite is either wiped out or FORCED by extreme circumstance to change - it won't.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. Humans are the planetary apex predator, and the entire biosphere is our prey.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 09:07 AM
Sep 2014

When the biosphere no longer supports our activities, we will change...

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
4. What evolves by itself?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:31 PM
Sep 2014

Any living thing left to itself is going to just keep doing what it's doing. I doubt it's about being too greedy or stupid. It's more like we've been successfully smart/forceful in our adaptations.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
5. We are an evolutionary hyper-success story.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:21 PM
Sep 2014

IMO the problem with Homo sapiens is not that we're failures, but that we have been successful beyond our wildest dreams. We are executing the same evolutionary program as any other species. We simply evolved enough intelligence to defeat all other potential predators on the face of the planet. Except ourselves...

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
6. evolution proceeds via the death of children
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:23 PM
Sep 2014

Whenever people talk about "the need to evolve" I tend to think "be careful what you wish for"

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