Environment & Energy
Related: About this forumSept. 21 2014 in NYC: People's Climate March - THIS WILL BE HUGE!!!! BE THERE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/nyc-climate-march_n_5799268.html?utm_hp_ref=greenSorry I can open this link but can't cut and paste paragraphs from it. For more info, go to www.peoplesclimatemarch.org.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)And in case you are in the south west and cannot get to NYC we are having a huge people's climate march in San Diego also. Be here or be there. Get out and walk!
bananas
(27,509 posts)Just googled and found some links, thanks!
http://www.peoplesclimatesd.org/event/event-details/
A growing coalition of San Diego organizations and individuals including The Sierra Club, SanDiego350, Environmental Health Coalition, Citizens Climate Lobby, the Labor Council, IBEW Local 569, and the San Diego County Democratic Party want to make sure that our local leaders know that San Diegans are also watching, and we too demand climate action now.
http://lsmdem.org/peoples-climate-march-san-diego/
http://sandiego350.org/civicrm/civicrm/mailing/view?reset=1&id=71
edit to add: Activist San Diego has a calendar of all political events:
http://www.activistsandiego.org/node/4562
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Our Amnesty International group is going, north county dem clubs are going. Should be fun.
bananas
(27,509 posts)stuntcat
(12,022 posts)Some are talking about what a waste this is, and yes I realize that, but going to things like this is always the only time I can ever be around other people who have any grasp of what's up. Of course almost everyone there will be a meat-headed meat-defender, just like all the perfect examples at DU.
Deep greens say nothing the regular consumer can do matters, including taking action, or voting. But those same people are as strongly in denial as the rest of the consumers about their precious "meat"
If you explain how we can replant every forest on earth, they'll call you "hero."
If you lead the fight to feed the world's hungry, they'll call you "saint."
If every day you fight to save our dying oceans, they'll call you "champion."
If you advance a way to stop cancer and heart disease, they'll call you "healer."
If you live selflessly so that others may simply live, they'll admire your character.
If you teach others the key to saving life on earth, they'll raise you on their shoulders.
If you do all of these things, they simply call you "vegan."
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I'm a long time vegetarian and while I was at the final planning meeting this week, I looked around at the crowd (over 700) and wondered how many of them still eat meat. One of my acquaintances who I only saw infrequently for lunch or brunch always claimed to be an environmentalist and then she'd order chicken salad. I never said anything because I can be pretty blunt.
(I wonder where my button is that states "Peace begins on your plate."
As far as this being a "waste" the plan is that (hopefully) at the end of the march people will hang around and network to keep some kind of action going and not let all this energy and enthusiasm only be for one day.
Where are you coming from?
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)Since our biggest most important consumption is our food intake it does seem like more people would want to adjust their lives. Super-healthy vegans who haven't eaten meat in a decade prove it can be done. I'm not a perfect vegan yet, but I haven't eaten "meat" in years and somehow I'm making it! Is it just the feeling I get knowing I'm not causing so much death?
Anyway, this is why I've given up on DU. Like how our rape of the planet is why I've given up on Democrats.
I'm taking a bus from Northern Virginia, we leave at 6:00 am and get back about 11:00 at night. I'm nervous because I've never taken the bus up there, I usually take the train, I hate highways. I'm just gonna pack sandwiches and bandaids LOL Pray for me to make it home
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I keep it quiet from my vegan friends because I don't need them to lecture me. I don't have any pretensions of perfection. I'm turned off by the term "ethical vegan" because it seems holier-than-thou (and I'm sympathetic to the cause!).
Good vibes for the trip but - You'll be fine on the bus. I've traveled on a chartered bus several times to D.C. and back for demos. Maybe you could listen to music or use a meditation app on the phone? What group will you be with? I'll be a volunteer but I'm not sure what I'm doing yet.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)I'm not volunteering or with a group, just showing up to add one person to the count! I'm gonna listen to music all the way there and back. I probably won't die, lol :hope:
I'd say I'll see you there but I'm sure it will be impossible to find anyone. I'll have sunglasses, brown hair and a backpack with the Scottish flag on it!
It's been so long since I quit meat and I'm still not quite a perfect vegan (don't tell anyone.) But even when I did eat meat I wouldn't have gone online making whole threads about why "meat" isn't bad for the planet. People just KILL me.
I wish everyone here would watch Cowspiracy. Even knowing how futile it all is, we can still live light and with less cruelty.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)chartered bus or a "regular" bus? Asking because I was at a volunteer training today and the chartered buses will be discharging passengers at West 86th Street.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)The chartered buses are dropping us right where we need to be? I've printed a good map to take, and I hope I'll be able to keep track of some of the people I'll be riding home with.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)along West 86th Street. West 86th and Central Park West is the northern end of the assembly area, which the organizers intended to be for people unaffiliated with any groups that have their designated assembly areas to the south. Like you'll see on your map - the street named Central Park West (which is of course along Central Park) will be to the east of wherever you get off the bus. You may see a lot of trees in the distance to the west - that's another park, Riverside Park. That's the wrong park.
The NYPD will have set up their horrid metal fencing to separate the several different sections of marchers, so there will be a limited number of streets you can enter in - 86th being one of them. A bus greeter will get on the bus soon after your arrival and give you the details.
I'm a kind of a marshal called a "peacekeeper" and we'll be scattered around. I don't know where they're putting me. We'll be wearing orange t-shirts and white hats. Other marshals will be wearing other colors - yellow or green or something.
This won't be the standard environmental demo - there will be floats and marching bands! I'm stoked but a little leery of what I've gotten myself into - my day starts at 7:00 a.m.
P.S. I'll try to look for you.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)stoked but a little leery" ! totes!!!!
My focus will be: 1. take pictures, 2. make it home safe. And that is IT.
TY for this! We have less than a week!
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)It states if you're not with a group you could stay in the area that ends at 86th Street but could also pick one to march with. If you do that you can either walk down to that group's section or take the subway (to spare your feet a little LOL.)
Plus, I looked at the map of the march site and it appears they expanded the bus drop off site a couple of blocks west. They expect at least 500 buses. And - there's going to be a welcome demo for the folks arriving Thurs. eve from California by train at Penn Station in midtown.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)stuntcat
(12,022 posts)I like the #1 and #4 sections.
It's a busy weekend, Saturday is DCVegFest. But that'll be a day in the park compared to the trip to NY.
As long as I get back on the bus home that night I'll consider the day a success! (for me anyway
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LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)was stationed way back at 81st Street.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)It was sooo packed and my biggest concern was just making it to the right bus. So all I did was walk along with everyone and blow my whistle and play my tambourine whnever it was time to make noise.
That first wave of noise after the moment of silence was so amazing. It took a couple of minutes for everyone to get quiet but then they did, and then the scream started from the back and you could hear it coming! It was sooo cool, it was like a 2 or 3 mile screamwave!!
As much as I hate plastic and know water is like gold I loved those big tanks of water with the people handing out little cones to get water in. Also the big screens there were 3 or 4 of. My immediate thought was "what a waste," but they were so cool.
There were a lot of vegan groups and signs.
This guys was my favorite, vegan and childfree, so perfect, dreamguy <3 could not be more perfect.
http://www/instagram.com/p/tPFllVIR_Z
grrr I can't share the pic. I'm way too tired.
(last edit) Anyway, what did you do!!!?
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I was way back on 81st street and as the time wore on with no movement (not until 2:30 p.m.) I and another volunteer complained that we'd miss the moment of silence followed by the noisemaking. I had temporarily parked my butt on a low fence surrounding a tree when I noticed everyone standing with their hands up. I got up, held up my hands and at the right time, blew my whistle HARD. Probably everyone had been told about it in one way or another and at 12:58 it was like a wave - the hands went up in front and everyone followed suit. There was no sound equipment or screens back there so we missed the speeches. That's ok by me. I feel like I've heard all of it before...
Not surprised you're tired. I keep a pedometer on me and at the end of the day it totalled 9.85 miles. I had previously arranged to take off today so after a very early bedtime I stayed put for 12 hours.
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stuntcat
(12,022 posts)It's not letting me reply right. But TY for the FAQ!)
FedUpWithIt All
(4,442 posts)It was a great march. Thanks to everyone else who was there.