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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/15/208731/news-report-charges-us-with-conducting.htmlDemonstrators in Berlin, Germany, protest against the data gathering by the United States and the NSA.
News report charges U.S. with conducting illegal operations from German soil
By Matthew Schofield
McClatchy Foreign Staff
November 15, 2013
BERLIN The breach in U.S.-German relations seemed likely to widen Friday after a joint German newspaper and television investigation titled Secret War reported that American intelligence and military use this nation for tapping, code cracking, recruiting informants, observing suspects, kidnapping and abducting foreign enemies.
Whats more, the reports added: The Germans have known all that for years.
The reports come at a time when German-U.S. relations have been taking a beating. In June, documents released by former National Security Agency consultant Edward Snowden revealed that the NSA has spied on the electronic communications of tens of millions of Germans. In October, the news broke that the NSA had even been tapping the phone of German Chancellor Angela Merkel for years, even before she became chancellor.
The resulting freefall in American popularity was tracked by a poll by national German public television station ARD. That poll showed that only 35 percent of Germans still see the United States as a good partner, down from 49 percent in July. The poll also found that 61 percent of Germans now see the United States as an untrustworthy partner and that 60 percent of Germans consider Snowden who has been called a traitor by American officials to be a hero. President Barack Obamas star has fallen fast. In April 2010, 88 percent of Germans said they liked his politics; the new poll put that number at 43 percent.
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BERLIN: News report charges U.S. with conducting illegal operations from German soil (Original Post)
unhappycamper
Nov 2013
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dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)1. Cannot undertand how the spymasters thought they could get away with it
or be surprised at the backlash.
Esp. in Germany.
can you imagine the uproar if anything happens to Snowden?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)3. They are narrow-gauge intellects, or as I prefer: dumb asses. Take a good look at Gen. Alexander.
All bluster and wind. Slow thinker. Does not think ahead, is fearful as a matter of policy. Would you want a bureaucratic clown like that running your military in a real war? I think not.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)2. k&r