Brexit: Bill intended to block no deal to become law after being passed by House of Lords - live new

[asiliveandbreathe]

The beat on the street, or, Parliament, if you will

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/06/brexit-boris-johnson-news-latest-eu-labour-confirms-it-will-not-vote-on-monday-night-for-early-election-live-newsbior

This is from Naomi Smith, chief executive of the anti-Brexit group Best for Britain, commenting on the Benn bill passing the Lords.

The Lords have guided Britain further away from the no-deal cliff edge towards which the PM has been stumbling blindly.
Parliament has forced Boris Johnson into a corner and his reckless Brexit strategy is in tatters. He must now uphold democratic process and formally seek this extension or face the courts.

[Iliyah]

1. I'm guessing that is good news.

[Indykatie]

2. I Want To Think So But I'm Not Sure How a Delay Gets Them to Where They Need To Go

which is a new referendum vote or the elimination of No Deal ever being an option.

[griffi94]

4. As I understand it

The first order of business is to stop a no-deal Brexit Oct. 31. With that off the table, elections will be called. Possibly a vote for a new referendum.

[asiliveandbreathe]

3. Depends on which side of the Brexit argument you are on..the more I learn, the

more I am leaning towards no-deal Brexit demise....and now BJ is down on the farm with the cows..(at Link)

[unblock]

5. as much as i think a hard crash out of the eu is a terrible idea, i'm starting to agree.

i think macron is on to something. the uk (well, england, really) kinda needs to be punished for their nonsense. after the uk suffers for a while with a big mess of their own creation (ok, the russians gave them a big push), the eu will be in a stronger negotiating position.

or, more accurately, the uk will *realize* how weak their negotiating position is already, and then they will go to the eu with hat in hand begging for some kind of trade deal.

[asiliveandbreathe]

6. Afternoon summary re Brexit..Benn Bill

The bill is thought to be legally watertight, and it seems to have closed off the option of Johnson forcing a no-deal Brexit at the end of October - a threat he claims has to be on the table if the EU is to offer him the compromise he insists he can obtain.

Johnson has said that he would rather be “dead in a ditch”, (which he has taken back) than demand an article 50 extension and it is not at all clear what will happen if he gets to 19 October - the Saturday after the October EU summit, and the deadline in the bill for sending a letter requesting a Brexit deal - and the law says he must request an extension.

Johnson can only avoid this condition by either by getting MPs to pass a withdrawal agreement, or getting them to vote to agree to a no-deal Brexit. The latter will never happen, and the former (on the basis of what we know say far about the UK-EU renegotiation) seems a remote possibility. The bill means MPs will have recourse to the courts if Johnson were to refuse to request an extension, but quite how this might play out in practice is not clear.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/06/brexit-boris-johnson-news-latest-eu-labour-confirms-it-will-not-vote-on-monday-night-for-early-election-live-newsbior


"Quite how this might play out" is an understatement...