42 Shincheonji followers came to Korea from Wuhan over eight months

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42 Shincheonji followers came to Korea from Wuhan over eight months
Korea Times updated : 2020-02-29 19:10

The Ministry of Justice said it checked the immigration records of around 245,000 Shincheonji followers at the request of the health authorities as the bulk of infections are linked to a branch church of the fringe sect in the southeastern city of Daegu

Of the total Shincheonji followers, around 3,600 arrived here from China between July 1, 2019, and Feb. 27, 2020, the ministry said. Among them 42 traveled from the central Chinese city of Wuhan.

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/03/119_285338.html

The founder and leader of the Shincheonji cult is under investigation by prosecutors for obstructing the government public health efforts, failing to provide complete lists of church members and affiliated persons, and concealing the location of some church facilities around the country.

[dewsgirl]

1. I believe the number as of yesterday out of that group, was

1,557.😳

[soryang]

2. number from the Daegu Gyeongbukdo area is 2236 confirmed

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from Daegu, and 488 from Gyeongbuk. Although it hasn't been proven scientifically yet, all these cases are related to the cult, directly or indirectly. That's 86 percent of all cases.

[dewsgirl]

3. Crazy...ive read up a bit on that cult, kind of reminds me of

Scientology.

[soryang]

4. Yes. There is another "religious" organization manipulating the epidemic for political purposes

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... they will attempt to violate the emergency health ban on assemblies on the major plazas in Seoul in a few hours.

Minister Jeon is the leader of the Korean Christian Council. He was arrested a few days ago for violating South Korean election campaign laws. A brief statement he made while being transported from the police station in handcuffs said the planned illegal demonstration planned for this Saturday would not place until Sunday, March 1, and would be a “worship service.” The religious leader is associated with the right wing opposition Liberty Korea Party, now reformed as the United Future Party. Hwang Kyo-ahn, the former prime minister and LKP leader has appeared as a speaker at Minister Jeon’s Taegukki weekend demonstrations. The demonstrations call for President Moon to resign or be impeached because, allegedly he is a communist symphathizer and tyrant.

Now Jeon tries to frame his illegal demonstration in violation of the emergency public health ban on assemblies in Seoul’s major public plaza’s as “religious freedom” issue. During last week’s illegal demonstration, Jeon ridiculed the Shincheonji cult for closing its churches in response to hundreds of its members being positive for corona virus. Jeon encouraged resistance to the government public health efforts.

The public defiance of government public health efforts during the health emergency is a misguided and dangerous attempt to discredit and destabilize the government ahead of the general election April 15

https://civilizationdiscontents.blogspot.com/2020/02/daegu-gyeongbuk-covid-19-cluster.html

[dewsgirl]

5. Didn't they have a PM overthrown or arrested a couple

years ago, before Moon? I'll be the first to admit global politics are far from my strength, unless it involves Russia.
.

[soryang]

6. Right, President Park Geun Hye, was impeached and imprisoned in March 2017

Moon Jae-in the current president and leader of the democratic party supported the "candlelight revolution" demonstrations in the very same location Gwanghwamun, where millions turned out weekend after weekend to support her impeachment for corruption and abuse of power. Earlier this year, demos led by her former Prime Minister Hwang Kyo-ahn brought down the minister of justice on allegations of corruption.

Hwang leader of the right wing opposition LKP now United Front Party, is supported by Minister Jeon and other christian organizations, that previously made up the bulk of the Park Geun-hye's constituency. One of their demands is to impeach the current democratic Moon Jae-in or have him quit, and release Park Geun-hye from her prison sentence.

[dewsgirl]

7. One of the videos I watched, linked him to the Shincheonji church.

[soryang]

8. The two church groups are rivals and don't get along...

however, there is concern about the possibility of "crossover" or infiltration, where Sincheonji followers attend demos or other congregations led by Jeon's group or their allies. There was a group of people from Daegu at the demos in Gwanghwamoon last weekend.

Yes, Hwang and other LKP leaders attended Jeon's demos, and addressed the crowds. Jeon visited Hwang during his "hunger strike." They cooperate.

[dewsgirl]

9. I don't really pay attention to churches at all, but I have seen Joel

Osteen's, American super churches. The sheer size of the inside of the church, took my breath away.

[soryang]

10. My interest grew from an experience where an unethical Korean pastor

...was assigned to a congregation, then brought in followers, loyal only to himself, and took over the church properties and financial account, and ejected the members who assembly had paid for those church assets. The situation had to be resolved with costly litigation. Fortunately the judge recognized the preacher, for the charlatan that he was. On an occasion when I saw him attending another local church congregation, i noted he had a bodyguard.

So secretive, unethical, and manipulative behavior is more easily recognized in situations where you have already been victimized by it. I've noticed Jeon almost invariably is accompanied by bodyguards. Why does a preacher need a bodyguard? How do educated professional people fall for this crap?

Korean government figures including mayors of Pusan, Suwon, and the governor of Kyeongki do are openly calling the Sincheonji cult leader, Lee Man-hoi, a fraud on public news broadcasts the last few days.

[dewsgirl]

11. How do educated proffesionals fall for this crap?

This is a question I have obsessively pondered for the last few years.
I have to say, South Korea is the only country right now that I trust as far as Coronavirus numbers go, and the drive thru testing sites are absolutely genius.
Are you South Korean?

[soryang]

12. No but i lived there for three years in the US army.

I have family ties to the Korean American community and South Korea.

[dewsgirl]

13. Ahh I see. My son is stationed right now in Qatar, but his Saergent

who is also his best friend is stationed in S.Korea, they all were deployed about a month ago. It was alarming hearing about a US military member on base being infected in SK.

[soryang]

14. Stars and Stripes reporting his family has it too.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/wife-and-baby-of-us-soldier-who-has-coronavirus-moved-to-isolation-unit-at-camp-humphreys-military-says-1.620737

Of course, I hope your son, and his friend, health and well being.

[dewsgirl]

15. Thank you very much and for the article, I wasn't aware, it's difficult

to keep up.

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16. Religious right backs down

An MBC 2 news broadcast today reported that the religious opposition movement (Pan National People's Struggle Headquarters) sometimes referred to as the Taegukki movement, organized by Minister Jeon, of the Korean Christian Council, did not demonstrate in Gwanghwamun today heeding government warnings and declining to challenge the authority of the Mayor of Seoul to enforce the health ban on public assemblies in the main public plazas of Seoul. While Minister Jeon is in jail, the alternative leader of the group, Minister Jeong Bang-un, led a "unified" worship service in a church in the Sangbuk Gu neighborhood.

Hwang Kyo-ahn, the leader of the United Future Party opposition was noticeably present at the public March 1 commemoration ceremonies in a bipartisan display of patriotism with other government officials and representatives. As documented in another broadcast, in the last few days, Hwang had grown more circumspect in his criticism of the government response to the worsening healthcare crisis in South Korea. As the case numbers increased he became more vague and less strident in answers concerning what should be done in response to the epidemic.