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Eugene

(61,874 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:34 AM May 2012

China and US to co-operate to avoid cyber Cold War

Source: BBC

8 May 2012 Last updated at 11:07 GMT

China and US to co-operate to avoid cyber Cold War

US and Chinese defence ministers say they will work together over cybersecurity, despite accusations that China is the main source of online attacks against the US.

US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta met his Chinese counterpart Liang Guanglie in Washington on Monday.

He said it was "extremely important" to work together to "avoid a crisis in this area".

Mr Liang denied that China was the main source of cyber-attacks against the US.

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China and US to co-operate to avoid cyber Cold War (Original Post) Eugene May 2012 OP
Right ... nt bemildred May 2012 #1
The Chinese appear to be having serious internal problems amandabeech May 2012 #2
I don't think much of the "cyber threat". bemildred May 2012 #3
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
2. The Chinese appear to be having serious internal problems
Tue May 8, 2012, 07:54 PM
May 2012

at a very sensitive time in their political schedule.

I wonder if they see their best interests in diverting attention to a foreign evil-doer or trying to prevent any diverting and exploitable foreign affairs crisis.

They will do what they see in their best interests. That is without question, but which direction will they go?

Or will there be alternate courses depending on which faction has the upper hand within the party at the moment?

That would be the worst case scenario for us, particularly as we move toward a sensitive time in our political schedule.



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. I don't think much of the "cyber threat".
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:31 PM
May 2012

I mean it's real, but it's not a national security issue, in my view, and the means to deal with it are well understood, at least in parts of the technical community. (Although, in view of the Manning case for example, it's also clear that implementation is way behind technical understanding, and back when I was in the business I saw many egregious cases of failure to take proper security measures, usually because of indifference, cost and convenience.)

So I find the fact that we are cooperating with them on this "threat" interesting, because it suggests both sides find it a convenient issue for PR purposes, which I think it is, as things stand, easy to control, little accountability for any wild claims one wishes to make. And that gves rise to the question: what sort of cooperation is being considered?

I like the idea, as you suggest, that both sides are trying to figure out how to deal with the political consequences of the internet, and I think that is where the common interest lies.

Now along that line of thought, it is easy to see both sides using the "threat" as an excuse to attempt to control internet, in much the same way, but with complimentary justifications, them to stop the hackers on our behalf, us to prevent the hackers from hacking us.

I don't see that either they or we are in a position to easily get in a real argument with each other, both much too dependent on each other in myriad ways, but as you mention rationality cannot always be expected from the political classes.

YMMV

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