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AZProgressive

(29,929 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 09:46 AM Jul 2022

Hungary's leader Viktor Orbn bashed Western Europeans for 'mixing with non-Europeans'

Hungary's leader Viktor Orbán bashed Western Europeans for 'mixing with non-Europeans' and said Hungarians 'do not want to become a mixed race'

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said that his country's citizens have no interest in fraternizing with non-Europeans, according to Radio Free Europe.

Orbán idealized an "unmixed Hungarian race" while speaking at Baile Tusnad Summer University located in central Romania on Saturday. He argued that Europeans should not mix with "non-Europeans."

"We move, we work elsewhere, we mix within Europe," he said. "But we don't want to be a mixed race" or a "multiethnic" group, he added.

The conservative prime minister also argued that "the west is split in two," according to Daily News Hungary.

https://www.businessinsider.com/hungary-viktor-orban-mixing-non-europeans-hungarians-mixed-race-2022-7

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Hungary's leader Viktor Orbn bashed Western Europeans for 'mixing with non-Europeans' (Original Post) AZProgressive Jul 2022 OP
Since when is Hungarian a race? Ya, ya I know what he means. Srkdqltr Jul 2022 #1
I had to laugh. ChazInAz Jul 2022 #4
Of course. Avoid "the other" or the "superior" race/culture dies Zambero Jul 2022 #2
Strange. Elsewhere Orban claims an Asian ancestry for the Magyars. Jim__ Jul 2022 #3
This is the leader admired by American conservatives DBoon Jul 2022 #5

Srkdqltr

(9,760 posts)
1. Since when is Hungarian a race? Ya, ya I know what he means.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jul 2022

Have everyone's DNA done. Wouldn't that be interesting?

ChazInAz

(3,017 posts)
4. I had to laugh.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jul 2022

Considering Hungary's location, it's been the melting pot between Asia and Europe forever! (I was born in Budapest.)
One of the more popular names there is "Attila", chiefly because of the ethnic group of Szekelyi who are descended from that worthy gentleman. (I happen to be one of those, too.)
I'd be interested to see just what it is that Orban considers to be "pure Magyarok".

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
2. Of course. Avoid "the other" or the "superior" race/culture dies
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:06 AM
Jul 2022

Haven't we heard this before? Orbán plays a lot of cards at once here: racism, religious bigotry, xenophobia, hyper-nationalism, and "ethnic purity". Dehumanization is the first step, enabling haters to target groups and individuals that their leader identifies as threats.

Jim__

(15,222 posts)
3. Strange. Elsewhere Orban claims an Asian ancestry for the Magyars.
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jul 2022

At least according to this article - probably behind a pay wall - The Call of the Drums by Jacob Mikanowski which appeared in the August 2019 edition of Harpers.

A short excerpt:

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By the end of the nineteenth century, the search for Hungary’s Hunnic past had gradually coalesced into a theory called Turanism. (The name ultimately derives from Old Persian, in which Turan meant something like “the land of darkness” and designated a fringe region of the Sassanid Empire inhabited by unruly nomads.) Part political movement and part religious revival, Turanism was big-­tent nationalism in the style of pan-­Slavism and pan-­Germanism, born of Hungary’s nineteenth-­century imperial ambitions. It held that the Hungarian people hailed from Asia, were related to Turks and other Central Asian peoples, and that their nomadic and pagan history should serve as the basis for Hungary’s cultural life and foreign policy, rather than being subordinate to the concerns of their nominal Austrian Hapsburg overlords.

After Austria-­Hungary’s defeat in World War I, Turanism became an ideology of resentment, serving as inspiration to Hungarian fascist movements. It offered a way for Hungarians to become equal competitors in the racialized violence of the inter­war years—in a world in which Nazis were proclaiming their historic mission as leader of the Aryan nations, it made sense for Hungary to cast a wide net in search of friends. In the Turanist imaginary, Bulgaria, Turkey, and Japan were all possible allies whose support could be used to claw back the greatness (and territory) that had slipped away after Hungary’s defeat. Beginning with the postwar communist takeover of Hungary, however, Turanism was banned. Its leading journals ceased publication, its institutes were shuttered, and its scholars (such as they were) were silenced. Activists prominent in the movement’s glory days of the 1930s either left for exile or died in obscurity.

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In recent years, Fidesz functionaries have fanned out across Turkey and Central Asia, bearing the Turanist message with them wherever they go. The secretary for culture, Géza Sz?cs, long active in fostering closer cultural contacts between Hungary and “Turanian” peoples in Central Asia and Siberia, visited Kazakhstan in 2010 for a security conference. “We should not wish to be secondary in Europe,” he told the crowd. “We should promote ourselves in Asia.” In 2013, the director of the National Institute of Oncology ordered a genetic study of a member of Hungary’s founding royal family, hoping to connect their line to the ancient Huns. (That official, Miklós Kásler, has since been appointed minister of human capacities—a cabinet position combining authority over education, sports, culture, and health care—and announced the formation of a scientific institute designed to find definitive proof of Hungarians’ supposed Eurasian origins.) László Kövér, the speaker of Parliament who spoke at the Kurultáj, makes frequent reference to Hungary’s historical connections to Attila and, in a September address to the Parliamentary Assembly of Turkic-Speaking Countries, which Hungary formally joined last year, expressed his pleasure at being accepted by “our Turkic brothers.”

Even more significant, however, has been the Turanist enthusiasm of Orbán himself. Throughout his political career, Orbán has proved to be a master of symbolic politics, especially as they pertain to the most emotionally resonant periods in Hungarian history. He has built a museum dedicated to the crimes of Communism and adjusted the statuary near the Parliament building by diminishing the prominence of left-­leaning leaders. In 2011, armed with a parliamentary supermajority, Orbán pushed through a new constitution in which the Holy Crown, a jeweled diadem that once served as the coronation crown of Hungarian royalty, was officially declared to embody the “continuity of Hungary and the unity of the nation.” A year later, the government invited a Hungarian folk singer and her Tuvinian singer-­shaman partner to perform a special “purification ceremony” on the crown, meant to endow it—and by extension the whole country—with positive energy. László Kürti, a professor of political science at the University of Miskolc, has written that this consecration, mixing as it did pagan and Christian symbolism in the very heart of the state, marked the beginning of “a new civil religion with neo-shamanism at its core.”

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DBoon

(24,983 posts)
5. This is the leader admired by American conservatives
Sun Jul 24, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jul 2022

There is a reason CPAC met in Hungary, and that the press was excluded.

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