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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Thu May 7, 2015, 12:58 PM May 2015

Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians—as Justice Minister...

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/netanyahu-palestinians-government


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu decided to appoint Ayelet Shaked as justice minister in his fourth government. Shaked is a Member of Knesset (MK) representing the far-right HaBayit HaYehudi (“Jewish Home”) party. She is known for her extreme, ultranationalist views.
During Israel’s summer 2014 attack on Gaza, MK Shaked essentially called for the genocide of Palestinians. In a Facebook post on July 1—a day before Israeli extremists kidnapped Palestinian teenager Muhammad Abu Khdeir and burned him alive—the lawmaker asserted that “the entire Palestinian people is the enemy” and called for its destruction, “including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.”

Her post consisted of an excerpt from an article by Uri Elitzur, the late right-wing journalist and leader of the Israeli settler movement, which seeks to colonize Palestinian land in contravention of international law. Elitzur also served as a speechwriter and advisor to Netanyahu.


Well, it looks like they are getting iff to a smashing success.
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Netanyahu appoints Ayelet Shaked—who called for genocide of Palestinians—as Justice Minister... (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 OP
He just keeps proving that Faux pas May 2015 #1
Her personal Facebook page has disappeared however this is a translation taken from it last summer azurnoir May 2015 #2
So she didn't actually call for genocide against Palestinians and Mondoweiss lied oberliner May 2015 #3
Mondoweiss is a vanity site and actually considered a hate site by some, and therefore shouldn't be King_David May 2015 #4
Neither should any Israeli government site, given the hideous collection of Neo-Kahanists geek tragedy May 2015 #6
Yep agreed, independent newspapers such as Haaretz or Ynet are good choices . King_David May 2015 #12
Oh, poor you. Mondoweiss is at least R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #10
Please stop with your obnoxious replies to me King_David May 2015 #13
Let me make this clear. Do not accuse me of... R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #15
you're right, she just believes in massacring every Palestinian man, woman and child who is related geek tragedy May 2015 #5
As I said, her views are odious oberliner May 2015 #7
what's more curious is that you've been trying to defend her geek tragedy May 2015 #9
That's like saying Juan Cole was "defending" Ahmadenijad when correcting inaccurate info... oberliner May 2015 #14
She posted someone elses call for genocide I'm sure it was an oversite on her part azurnoir May 2015 #8
The hasbara is piled so high on this one that R. Daneel Olivaw May 2015 #11
I agree with you. She didn’t call for genocide. Little Tich May 2015 #16
@#$% this guy and the horse he rode in on. Scurrilous May 2015 #17
Ayelet Shaked is a woman oberliner May 2015 #18

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. Her personal Facebook page has disappeared however this is a translation taken from it last summer
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:11 PM
May 2015

her excuse at the time was that she did not write the words herself someone else did she only posted them

An article by URI elitzur, a shelved late written 12 years ago. Relevant today as it was then: "the Palestinian people has declared war on us, and we need to fight back.
No operation, no rolling, and low intensity and controlled escalation, rather than destroying the terrorist infrastructure, and Israeli targeted killings. Enough to Dim up the names. This is a war. Words have meaning. This is a war. Rather than counter-terrorism and war on extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. Both these forms of evasion from reality. This is a war between the two Nations. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? You ask him, he started.

I don't know why is it so hard for us to set the simple words in the language to put at our disposal. Why do we have to invent every two weeks a new name for this war, and not to call her by name. What's so shocking in understanding that all the Palestinian people is the enemy. All war is between two peoples and the people who launched war on war, in its entirety, is the enemy. Declaration of war is not a war crime. Certainly not a war. Rather than using the word "war" and a clear definition of the enemy. Vice versa. Morality of war (and this) is based on the assumption that the world wars, and war is not normal, and usually fights with the enemy who disobeys the orders of his elders and pay its way, and its fruit, and tshtiotav property.

And morality of war know it is impossible not to harm the citizens of the enemy. He condemns the British air force bombed and destroyed completely the German Dresden and u.s. jets destroyed the cities of Poland and ravaged half of Budapest residents, miserable places that never were bad for America, but had to destroy them in order to win the war against evil. Morality of war don't read prosecute Russia explosion and destroys the towns and neighborhoods in Chile. He denounced the peace forces or killed hundreds of civilians in Angola, and the NATO bombing of Belgrade, Milosevic's City million Iranians, old men and women and infant children. The war has to be correct in principle, not just politically, what did America in Afghanistan, including bombs of populated localities, including the creation of refugees of hundreds of thousands of people who fled the fighting, and thousands of them left home to return to.

And it's true that our battle is that enemy soldiers are hiding within the population, and only because of the support they can fight. Behind a dozen men and women, standing, without which he could not have been too bad. Participants in the programs in mosques, authors of the murderous plans, sponsors, suppliers, car shelter, and give due respect and support morlit. All the enemy fighters and bleeding in the head. It's also the mothers of the martyrs, that send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They need to follow them, there's nothing in it. They need to go, and the physical House which they raised the snake. Other small snakes grow more.

But the week's festivities and respect both houses of two murderers vile. I guess they where mourning tents, and the city come to pay my respects to my mom and dad raised the devil. The two houses need to bomb from the air, to destroy and to kill. And we have to explain that from now on every home of a martyr. There is nothing right and probably not even that useful. Each bomber should have known he was taking with him both his parents and his home and neighbors. All UM Jihad hero that sends her son to hell needs to know that she's going with him. Along with the House and all that.

The list cannot be focused. That's war. What is thwart focused preventive and unfocused. We opened this naughty war we could not finish it. The key to a ceasefire in the hands of the Palestinian people. We can only burn their fingers until you want to use them. " (Translated by Bing)


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5269479
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. So she didn't actually call for genocide against Palestinians and Mondoweiss lied
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:14 PM
May 2015

It's weird that Mondoweiss feels the need to lie about her when her actual views are odious enough on their own.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
4. Mondoweiss is a vanity site and actually considered a hate site by some, and therefore shouldn't be
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:25 PM
May 2015
Used on a site like DU.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Neither should any Israeli government site, given the hideous collection of Neo-Kahanists
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:28 PM
May 2015

now controlling its law enforcement and the Lester Maddox Netanyahu running the show as PM.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
10. Oh, poor you. Mondoweiss is at least
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:50 PM
May 2015

not applauding the LGBTQ-hating Tennessee GOP legislature like some pretendemocracts do.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
13. Please stop with your obnoxious replies to me
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:30 PM
May 2015

Calling me names like "pretenddemocrat " is beyond the pale especially since I'm very involved in the Democratic Party and its particularly obnoxious when it comes from those that belittle Gays and support right wing hateful ideas on Jews and Israel .

Now I'm asking you... Stop stalking me , stop talking to me, stop harassing me , stop with this NOW , immediately.

I never answer your posts , I ignore you completely and yet you follow me around with ridiculous obnoxious replies and inappropriate comments.

I never reply to your posts , please don't reply to mine.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
15. Let me make this clear. Do not accuse me of...
Thu May 7, 2015, 08:14 PM
May 2015

1) Belittling gays

2) Supporting hateful ideas on Jews or Israel

3) Calling you names

4) Stalking you...c'mon, give me a break

5) Harassment.

Is that clear?

Ad the story goes somebody told President Truman to give the Republicans hell.

The President replied, "I tell the truth and they think it's hell."


If you don't have the ability to converse then put me on ignore...like you said you were going to do months ago. Remember?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. you're right, she just believes in massacring every Palestinian man, woman and child who is related
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:26 PM
May 2015

to or lives nearby someone who has taken up arms against Israel.

She lusts after the blood of non-combatant Palestinians.

But, hey, the real outrage is that a blog slightly exaggerated what this Baruch Goldstein wannabe wrote.

Circle. Those. Wagons.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. As I said, her views are odious
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:29 PM
May 2015

Which is why I find it weird that Mondoweiss would need to embellish them.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. what's more curious is that you've been trying to defend her
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:38 PM
May 2015

rather than engaging in a dialogue as to what it means that a Neo-Kahanist is now in charge of law enforcement in Israel.

And that another one is in charge of educating its citizens.

Kach was at one time banned as a terrorist organization.

One rebranding later, and they're calling the shots in Jerusalem.

Go ahead and tell us how a state whose elected government puts Baruch Goldstein wannabes in charge of legal affairs is a liberal, progressive one.


 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. That's like saying Juan Cole was "defending" Ahmadenijad when correcting inaccurate info...
Thu May 7, 2015, 04:40 PM
May 2015

...about the content of one of his speeches. Lots of folks made a point to dispute the "wiped off the map" translation - but that didn't mean they were defending him or his policies.

I offer no defense of this woman other than to say, don't make stuff up.

What further discussion needs to be had about her? Everyone here agrees that it is awful that she has this position. The whole government is right-wing and the worst of all possible worlds in every respect.

It is extremely depressing.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
8. She posted someone elses call for genocide I'm sure it was an oversite on her part
Thu May 7, 2015, 03:34 PM
May 2015

or a bad translation or something anything to clean this up

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
16. I agree with you. She didn’t call for genocide.
Fri May 8, 2015, 01:06 AM
May 2015

To display a strong desire to want to kill palestinian children and women isn’t a call for genocide, it’s just calling for a massacre. Besides, she didn’t even write that stuff herself.

Genocide is a very strong word, and I don’t think it’s actually an appropriate term to describe the I/P conflict.

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