Palestinians attack US tourists mistaken as settlers

[grossproffit]

[quote] Palestinians attacked five US tourists driving in the flashpoint West Bank city of Hebron on Thursday, hurling a petrol bomb and rocks at their car, police said, apparently mistaking them for settlers.

The visitors, said by Israel's Channel 2 television to be students at a Jewish seminary in Brooklyn, were given refuge by a Palestinian man who sheltered them in his home until Israeli security forces arrived to escort them to safety, the police statement said.

It added that two of the young men were lightly injured and given first aid on the spot.

Channel 2 said the men's vehicle was torched only after they had abandoned it.

The men, wearing the skullcaps of observant Jews, were said to have inadvertently driven into the residential neighbourhood of Jebel Johar while searching for the nearby shrine known to Jews as the Cave of the Patriarchs and to Muslims as the Ibrahimi Mosque and revered by both.

Palestinian security sources said they were mistaken for Israeli settlers by the Palestinians.[/quote]

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/palestinian[/url]s-attack-us-tourists-mistaken-settlers-190535115.html[/url]

[oberliner]

1. They were not mistaken for Israeli settlers

Think about that.

[geek tragedy]

2. Given that they were unarmed and nonviolent, yes they were easily

distinguishable from Israel's settler corps.

[Israeli]

3. Why not oberliner.....

...they look and sound exactly like the settlers from Hevron ....remember its Jebel Johar , you do know where Jebel Johar is dont you ??

ref : http://www.btselem.org/video/20141021_soldiers_detain_developmentally_disabled_child_in_hebron

They were very lucky to get out alive .....thanks to the Palestinian who rescued them .

"" Both the tourists and the solidiers thanked Hamdia. "We are all human first and foremost," said Hamdia. "That's how everyone should behave." ""

The settlers from Hevron would not agree with him oberliner ...to them all arabs are dogs ...less than human .

[oberliner]

7. How can you tell the difference between a settler and non-settler just by looking at them?

I'd be curious to know.

[Israeli]

12. How can you tell the difference between a secular Israeli and a non-secular Israeli....

....just by looking at them?

[oberliner]

16. Lots of non-secular Israelis are not settlers

That, in fact, is my point.

They were identifying the people as religious Jews, not as settlers.

[Israeli]

18. The majority of settlers are religious Jews oberliner in

....the area of Hevron and Kiryat Arba.

Not only religious Jews ...most of them are Kach ....and American .

[leftynyc]

4. Precisely why

I'll be skipping Hebron and the Cave of the Patriarch's next month when I go to Israel. Also, with the State Department warning about the Golan Heights, we may just spend an extra half day in Safed and wander those wonderful streets instead.

Thanks and prayers to that Palestinian man who sheltered them. I hope he doesn't get killed for it.

[Israeli]

5. Stay inside the Green Line leftynyc .....

.....like most of us do ....and you should be ok .

[leftynyc]

6. I'm not really worried

I'll miss seeing the Cave - mostly because it's somewhere that is sacred to all those who follow Abrahamic religions and one of our group of four has never been there but it's not my first trip and I'll listen to the State Department warnings. There is so much to do and see there and having a "virgin" (he's never been to Israel at all) is exciting for all of us.

[Israeli]

10. I just returned home from Jerusalem ....

I havent been there since my son was inducted into the Army at the wall ....about 7 years ago .
He starts studying there in October ....he just found an apartment in the centre so went to help him move ....spent some time re discovering the old city .

Take my advice and steer clear of East Jerusalem to leftynyc......its not like it used to be .

I didnt have a problem inside the old city ....but American tourists like yourself especially if you are wearing religious headgear etc are a target .

Enjoy your trip ....stay safe .

[leftynyc]

11. Thank you for the info

I will certainly take it to heart. BTW - if you have any good restaurant recommendations - anywhere, not just Jerusalem, I would surely appreciate it. I've found the best way to start an argument is to ask who makes the best falafal in Jerusalem - everyone has a very strong opinion on that. Frankly, in NYC, the best falafal I've eaten is from the Rafiqi truck right outside my office.

[Israeli]

14. Best restaurant in my area is called Alabama....

...if you like meat .

http://www.tripadvisor.co.il/Restaurant_Review-g297759-d3989700-Reviews-Alabama-Netanya_Central_District.html

Way off the tourist trail leftynyc....you have to book well in advance ...doesnt cater to kosher .

[leftynyc]

15. None of us keep kosher

and we're all carnivores. Looks to be about 1/2 hour from Tel Aviv. There's a very nice woman helping us plan the trip so I will surely mention this and see if we can fit it in. Thanks for the tip.

[Israeli]

17. OK .... if kosher is not a problem ....

....the best place in Tel Aviv is Claro....if you can afford it .

http://telaveat.com/claro/

http://www.clarotlv.com/indexEn.html

[leftynyc]

19. Oh my - that looks wonderful

And while I can't afford it personally, thankfully the ones I'm travelling with can (I'm being taken on this trip as a gift).

[King_David]

20. Nice

[leftynyc]

21. Another place in Tel Aviv

that came highly recommended was this one:

http://www.thenorman.com/restaurants-and-bars/restaurant

We're staying at this hotel for the last night we're in Tel Aviv the night before we fly back to the US.

[shira]

8. Israeli, what do you make of this....from Hebron?

http://www.israellycool.com/2015/08/22/memories-from-my-time-as-a-pro-palestinian-activist-in-hebron-2007/

Plausible?

Bullshit?

[grossproffit]

9. Excellent article. Young Swede Who Changed from Pro-Palestinian to Israel Supporter

[ur]http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/722/014.html[/url]

Will you be creating an OP about him?

I see you have.

[Israeli]

22. shira , .....

israellycool.com is a religious right wing blog ....its all bullshit .
.....about as much bullshit as you stating you would vote Meretz if you could .

[Mosby]

23. There is a really good cheese shop in safed

http://www.zissil.com/topics/Kadosh-Dairy-Safed

[leftynyc]

24. Thanks for the tip

Safed made a big impression on me the last time I was there. I can't wait to go back.

[6chars]

13. The attack is wrong regardless of any mistaken identity

The same people might have attacked Jewish tourists they thought were tourists, Israelis they thought were tourists, and of course Israelis theynthoughtnwere Israelis. The nature of the attack, culminating in injuries and a burned out car were not justified by anyone's identity. It was a penalty for driving while Jewish. Of course, the attackers were brutes acting outside the law, but they are not reflective of all Palestinians. For example, the man who sheltered them showed humanity. More of that needed from both sides and it should be applauded.

[Israeli]

25. Hebron in the news again ....

WATCH: Masked settlers attack Palestinians at Hebron checkpoint

Masked Israeli settlers attack, pepper spray Palestinians detained at the Beit Hadassah checkpoint in Hebron. Palestinian activist: ‘Had a Palestinian attacked the settlers, the entire neighborhood would have already been punished.’

By Yael Marom

A video released Saturday shows four settlers violently attacking two Palestinians who were detained by Israeli soldiers near the Beit Hadassah settlement in the city of Hebron.

According to the organization “Youth Against Settlements,” whose activists filmed the incident, two Palestinians were detained by Israeli soldiers near Beit Hadassah on Saturday, an area known for settler violence. The Palestinians began arguing with the soldiers when four settlers who were in the area intervened. According to the Palestinian activists, tempers began to flare and the four settlers went into Beit Hadassah, only to come out a few minutes later with their faces covered.

(see : video)

The video, shot by one of the YAS activists shows the masked settlers assaulting the Palestinians (one of the soldiers seems to be caught in the confrontation) and pepper spraying one of the Palestinians in his faces as he attempts to flee.

According to Israeli news site Walla!, the IDF claims that one of the detained Palestinians had been summoned for interrogation — most likely for throwing stones — and that the police force of the Judea and Samaria district has opened an investigation on the matter. Youth Against Settlements activist Issa Amro claims that the Palestinian arrested on Saturday is a tour guide who passes through the checkpoint on a regular basis. Amro told +972′s sister site, Local Call, that although the video of the attack was passed on to the police, not a single settler has been arrested. “The police said that arrests are made only after Shabbat,” Amro said, adding that he doesn’t understand why it is okay “to attack people on Shabbat, but not to arrest them on Shabbat.”

“Had a Palestinian attacked the settlers, the entire neighborhood would have already been punished,” added Amro. “All the Palestinians in the area would have been detained and the soldiers would have gone from home to home. If the police and the army won’t stop settler violence against Palestinians, their violence will only get worse. In the end it will only cause those who are routinely attacked to use violence against the settlers.”

Yael Marom is Just Vision’s public engagement manager in Israel and a co-editor of Local Call, where this article was originally published in Hebrew.

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Source: http://972mag.com/watch-masked-settlers-attack-palestinians-at-hebron-checkpoint/111426/

See also : http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4697847,00.html

[GoneFishin]

26. Why the need for the writer to speculate on the beliefs of the attackers regarding the

country of origin of the tourists?

"Bank robber steals $5,000 from ABC Bank, probably intending to use the money for drugs."

[bemildred]

27. At least the "seminary students" will have a clearer picture of the situation now. nt