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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:50 PM Sep 2015

Jimmy Carter’s cancer is God’s punishment,’ says leading Israeli newspaper

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/carters-punishment-newspaper

This is ugly hogwash typical of crazy religious people. Except when you live in an ethnocratic state, it gets elevated to the category of “news.” The Jerusalem Post, picking up a Jewish Telegraphic Agency story: ‘Jimmy Carter’s cancer is God’s punishment for his behavior toward Jews’

For some Jews (and evangelical Christians), the cause apparently is obvious. No, it’s not his genetic makeup, or the spread of a mass from his liver to his brain. It’s divine punishment for his behavior toward the Jews.

Not so fast, writes Rabbi Benjamin Blech on Aish.com, the website of Orthodox Jewish outreach organization Aish HaTorah: “Don’t presume to know that his illness is a result of his anti-Semitic views.”


The Jewish Telegraphic Agency puts out this crap? My lord. I don’t understand why people are so obsessed with Islam when Zionism is in the cupboards.

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Jimmy Carter’s cancer is God’s punishment,’ says leading Israeli newspaper (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 OP
He's over 90 years old. If he wasn't being punished he would live forever?? mucifer Sep 2015 #1
Hitler never got brain cancer. ( n/t ) Make7 Sep 2015 #2
The article in the paper says the opposite 6chars Sep 2015 #3
Some wouldn't know the headline if they read it. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #5
Not true 6chars Sep 2015 #8
Not surprised.....Mondoweiss actually is considered by a lot of people to be a hate site.... King_David Sep 2015 #6
"is considered by a lot of people to be a hate site...." Sure, by pro-apartheid anti-Palestinians. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #12
Kidnap Denial: Blaming the Victim of Tragedy oberliner Sep 2015 #17
Oh, glee! Another link to a blog opinion. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #19
This post illustrates the similarity between Mondoweiss and Kahanists oberliner Sep 2015 #24
This is a fact ober. Palestinians die, and Israel does little...if anything. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Sep 2015 #26
They killed Jesus Gman Sep 2015 #4
Consider the source of the article, King_David Sep 2015 #7
sarcasm, right? 6chars Sep 2015 #9
I took it as being sarcasm King_David Sep 2015 #10
I didn't. grossproffit Sep 2015 #20
Just when I think this place can't sink any lower, it does. grossproffit Sep 2015 #14
anyone have the jury results? Mosby Sep 2015 #22
More lies from Mondoweiss oberliner Sep 2015 #11
Mondoweiss should be banned here as other hate sites are King_David Sep 2015 #13
Hey, I'd gladly trade banning mondoweiss for getting rid of: geek tragedy Sep 2015 #18
arutz sheva (channel seven) is INN Mosby Sep 2015 #21
Chris Gunness of UNRWA tweeted this hate incitement far & wide... shira Sep 2015 #15
He retweets a lot of Mondoweiss BS oberliner Sep 2015 #16
Unless they changed the headline Eko Sep 2015 #23

6chars

(3,967 posts)
3. The article in the paper says the opposite
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:06 PM
Sep 2015

All it has is a rabbi explaining that anyone who thinks carter's cancer is divine punishment is an idiot. But you wouldn't know that from mondoweiss. If they can mislead in order to demonize israel, they will.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Some wouldn't know the headline if they read it.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:10 PM
Sep 2015

Try again, 6chars.

The title is accurate. You, although are not.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
8. Not true
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:25 PM
Sep 2015

The headline is in quotations, and the entire article is an editorial saying how stupid the viewpoint in the quotations is. This was in no way the paper asserting the viewpoint in quotes. This is not what the paper was saying. Other headlines in the paper are not in quotes.

It would be like if a paper wrote "Sarah Palin made the absurd assertion that 'immigrants should speak American' even though American is not a language" and the Mondoweiss equivalent says "Leading paper says 'immigrants should speak American."

Glad to clarify how the title was not accurate, and misleadingly so. Really, this is embarrassing.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
6. Not surprised.....Mondoweiss actually is considered by a lot of people to be a hate site....
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 07:17 PM
Sep 2015

What is surprising though is that it is still used here on DU.....Considering that DU is a Democratic Party supporting website it is very strange indeed....



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=112010

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
12. "is considered by a lot of people to be a hate site...." Sure, by pro-apartheid anti-Palestinians.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:33 PM
Sep 2015

I'm sure that they would love to shut off access, from DU anyway, to Mondoweiss; seeing how truth is such a bitter enemy to hasbarist disingenuousness.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Kidnap Denial: Blaming the Victim of Tragedy
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 07:30 AM
Sep 2015

Kidnap Denial.

Pick an extreme. On the extreme that despises Israel to death, the primary form which kidnap denial takes, is literal. "The bodies of three missing Israeli teens - Gil-Ad Shaer,16, Naftali Fraenkel, 16, and Eyal Yifrah, 19 – were found today in a West Bank field near the village of Halhul, not far from where they went missing on June 12," wrote Adam Horowitz, co-editor of the avowedly anti-Israel Mondoweiss.net, in a tone passive enough to cast or reinforce doubt – much in evidence in some pro-Palestinian circles - as to whether a crime had been committed at all.

The next form – a litmus test for a certain form of racism on the hard left - is the idea that the three murder victims had it coming to them.

When one Mondoweiss reader asked “Can’t we be sympathetic to three mothers who lost their children without trampling on their graves?” a second reader was quick to respond:

"No. When have the Zionist Jews been sympathetic to the mothers of dead Palestinians??? When they begin, then the feeling should be reciprocated. Until then it simply plays into the bigoted Zionist narrative.

"And more specifically, I don’t have pity for these parents, I hold them in contempt. If they were not willing participants in the theft and occupation of Palestine, their kids would not be dead. But they loved their demonic ideology more than they loved their children."

When the first reader suggested "I think the appropriate response at a time like this is a simple, 'I’m sorry for your loss,' the second reader replied that "since this people have never treated the Palestinians with basic human decency, I say to hell with them."

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/a-special-place-in-hell/.premium-1.602431

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
19. Oh, glee! Another link to a blog opinion.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:27 AM
Sep 2015

Well at least it's not a link to Kahanists.

By the way, are you still floating the idea that it wasn't Jewish extremists that murdered most of the Dawabsha family?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=112278

Talk about denial, ober.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. This post illustrates the similarity between Mondoweiss and Kahanists
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:40 PM
Sep 2015

The Kahanists doubt that the Palestinian could've been killed by Israeli Jews and the Mondoweissers doubted that the Israeli Jews could've been killed by Palestinians. In spite of much evidence to suggest the contrary in both cases.

Two sides of the same coin.

I would encourage you to take some time to reflect on that and then think twice about ever posting anything from Mondoweiss again.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
25. This is a fact ober. Palestinians die, and Israel does little...if anything.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:47 PM
Sep 2015

Israelis die and Netanbooboo orders mass arrests and starts a war.

Both are a Kahanist's dream.

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #25)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. More lies from Mondoweiss
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:05 PM
Sep 2015

They are shameless and should be banned here.

The "leading Israeli newspaper" in question is the Jerusalem Post, and the article printed there attacks those who would hold that loathsome perspective (which they attribute to "some Jews and evangelical Christians&quot

It's disgusting (but not surprising) that Mondoweiss would try to spin this to mean the exact opposite.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
13. Mondoweiss should be banned here as other hate sites are
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:36 PM
Sep 2015
......

Only one poster seems to post this site though, perhaps he is unaware that it is a bigoted hate site?
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Hey, I'd gladly trade banning mondoweiss for getting rid of:
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 09:00 AM
Sep 2015

Arutz Sheva
IsraelNationalNews
Jewishpress.com
algemeiner
unwatch
Israel Hayom

and whatever else appears in the blogroll of certain (not you) 'liberal' supporters of Israel here.

Mosby

(16,299 posts)
21. arutz sheva (channel seven) is INN
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 12:51 PM
Sep 2015

I don't really have a problem with jewish press and algemeiner, for me it comes down to the individual but fwiw they are both center right. Hayom is far right and I don't see anyone here using them for OPs.

Eko

(7,281 posts)
23. Unless they changed the headline
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 06:42 PM
Sep 2015

which is possible, that is not the headline they have. Here is the headline "Some Jews have divined the real cause of Jimmy Carter’s cancer. " http://www.jpost.com/page.aspx?pageid=7&articleid=415271 It is always best to give the link to the original article as well to actually show it to people, not doing so leave you open to some criticism.

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