Hamas Releases Video Encouraging Knife Attacks on Jews

[grossproffit]

[quote]A video uploaded to YouTube* by a Hamas account on Oct. 6 glorifies and encourages murdering Jews in the Old City of Jerusalem.

The video shows what purports to be a Palestinian Arab man in his twenties. The Arab is shown wearing a Fatah-style kefiyah. He is sitting in an alleyway of what looks like the Old City of Jerusalem, and he is watching a video on his cellphone. Young Arab boys play ball in the alley.[/quote]

[url]http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/arab-video-encourages-murder-of-jews-in-old-city/2015/10/07/[/url]

The video has since been removed but I was able to locate another copy.

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[geek tragedy]

1. Jewishpress.com is a vile, rightwing, birther hate site.

People who get their news from there are little better than the folks who cruise st0rmfr0nt or davidduke.com

It's run, and patronized, by the Meir Kahane/Baruch Goldstein crowd.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=meir+kahane+site:jewishpress.com

http://www.jewishpress.com/tag/baruch-goldstein/

Why anyone would post a link to that shitstain of a publication on a Democratic website is mystifying.

[King_David]

2. I agree with you , Mondoweiss is equally as bad

Neither of these bigoted Anne Coulter supporting sites should be posted on a Democratic website.

[geek tragedy]

3. mondoweiss is a shit website, but it's not explicilty fascist and pro-genocide

the writers for jewishpress.com are no better than the people who publish Inspire magazine.

[King_David]

4. Looks that way,although I am not familiar with the writers there.

The video posted was pretty interesting though.

[grossproffit]

6. So, no comments on the video? Only the source?

[geek tragedy]

8. didn't watch the video, stopped reading when I saw that you got your story

from the pro-Israel version of Inspire magazine.

to me, no different than the people who link to David Irving or Ernst Zundel on this subject.

[azurnoir]

5. ah yes more from this source

The body of an Arab boy (17) from Shuafat, Jerusalem, has been found in the Jerusalem forest on Wednesday morning.

The boy has been identified as Mohammed Abu Khdeir.

Following reports that Abu Khdeir was kidnapped by three men near Beit Haninah on Tuesday night, Jerusalem police began a search for him.

Arabs from Shuafat claim the boy was kidnapped by Jews in a revenge attack, and certain Israeli elements rushed to lay suspicion on Jews for the act.

The area were the kidnapping happened has security cameras installed, and police are reviewing the footage.

There are unconfirmed reports that police have arrested a number of Arab suspects who were found driving in a car matching the description of the kidnapping vehicle, with suspicious items in the car.

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/body-of-arab-boy-found-in-jerusalem-forest/2014/07/02/


Meanwhile, a fire broke out on Sunday night, on August 23, in a house belonging to another member of the Dawabsha family in the Duma village. Early Arab reports blamed that fire, too, on Jewish extremists, but after a while the head of the Duma village council, Abdul Salam Dawabsha, announced the fire started due to a malfunctioning electric system. But local residents told NRG that they found a Molotov cocktail inside the burnt Dawabsha house, and suggested the house—located at the center of the village, just like the other two Dawabsha burnt houses had been—had been set on fire as the result of an internal conflict. The same locals noted that, contrary to the previous fire, this house was left without Hebrew graffiti smeared on the walls. Finally, Ghassan Douglas, who holds the Settlers portfolio in the Palestinian Authority, told WAFA that the house was burnt as the result of arson, and that a family member was injured from smoke inhalation.


http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/analysis-five-weeks-later-why-are-investigators-stumped-about-the-lethal-arson-in-duma-village/2015/09/07/

[grossproffit]

7. United with Israel has the same story.

[url]http://unitedwithisrael.org/watch-hamas-releases-video-encouraging-knife-attacks-on-jews/[/url]

[quote]Hamas has released a terrible new video encouraging terror against Jews. Although graphic, we encourage everyone to watch.

The Hamas terror organization has jumped on the ISIS bandwagon, working to produce high-quality propaganda videos.

In this video, Hamas uses two actors portrayed as Jews who harass Palestinian boys playing soccer and end up getting murdered by the Palestinian hero.

Hamas’s graphic message in this video in clear: Kill Jews.

It’s important to watch this and spread the word so that the world understands – once and for all – who is to blame for the violence, terror and death.[/quote]

Is United with Israel a hate site, too?

[geek tragedy]

9. yes, same group of extreme rightwing racist assholes who publish and read jewishpress.com

you still claiming to be a liberal Democrat? Because everything you post places you in the ranks of Mike Huckabee, Dick Cheney and Ted Cruz.

UnitedwithIsrael.org is an extreme rightwing website.

here they are slobbering over Tom Cotton:

http://unitedwithisrael.org/watch-us-senator-tom-cotton-defends-israel/

Perhaps you're confused. This is a Democratic website, not a Republican discussion group where people push Neocon propaganda.

Perhaps you should try harder to pretend to belong here when choosing websites to link to.

[grossproffit]

10. Yet, you had no issues with Alison Weir being posted here.

[geek tragedy]

11. thats' the best defense you can muster for excreting rightwing filth on this site?

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Thanks, by the way, for helping me make my case that support of Israel is a rightwing cause.

[shira]

13. The video doesn't lie. No sense denying fact. n/t

[grossproffit]

16. "Support of Israel is a right wing cause?"

Careful, your slip is showing.

[geek tragedy]

17. support of Israel is a rightwing cause.

it's really not even debatable as a factual matter.

The Republicans are much more fervent and unquestioning in their support of Israel.

The more rightwing a candidate, the more likely they will be a big booster of Israel.

The bigger a supporter of Israel someone is, the more likely they are to have supported Bush in his war with Iraq, and to oppose Obama in his efforts to avoid war with Iran.

It's not a coincidence that the big Israel fans in this forum link to rightwing sites on a fairly regular basis.

[grossproffit]

18. Support for Israel has always been a Democratic cause.

Your views are the ones that are questionable, not mine.

[geek tragedy]

19. The same was said of segregation back in the 1950's.

Support for Israel is a legacy cause inside the Democratic party, it's an ideological one for the Republicans.


There is no criticism of Israel inside the Republican party. None. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are far more supportive of Israel than Bernie or Hillary, let alone Obama. No Republican president would put any pressure on Israel to stop building in the settlements, to negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith, etc etc.

George W Bush did whatever Israel wanted, sometimes with embarrassing results:

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2009/01/12/34714/olmert-bush-un-resolution/

“In the night between Thursday and Friday, when the secretary of state wanted to lead the vote on a ceasefire at the Security Council, we did not want her to vote in favour,” Olmert said.

“I said ‘get me President Bush on the phone’. They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn’t care. ‘I need to talk to him now’. He got off the podium and spoke to me.”I told him the United States could not vote in favour. It cannot vote in favour of such a resolution. He immediately called the secretary of state and told her not to vote in favour.”

Republicans believe in supporting Israel and doing whatever Israel wants. It is impossible for patriotic Democrats to support Israel as much as the Republicans do. Impossible.

And then there's this:

http://thehill.com/policy/international/264609-romney-polls-far-ahead-of-obama-in-israel

sraelis prefer Mitt Romney over President Obama by a wide margin, according to the latest polling from the Israel Democracy Institute and Tel Aviv University.

The Republican candidate leads Obama 57 percent to 22 percent, the organizations' Peace Index for October found in its October survey.

The gap is especially marked among self-described right-wingers — 70 percent of whom prefer Romney — while Obama gets three times more support from Arab Israelis, 45 percent versus 15 percent.

There were two countries on the entire planet that wanted Romney to beat Obama--Israel and Pakistan.

The reason Israel is a rightwing cause in the United States is that Israel is a rightwing, racist, militarist country.

[grossproffit]

20. Support for Israel isn't a 'legacy' cause, it's both a Democratic and American cause.

Your opinions, aren't those of the Democratic party.

[oberliner]

21. You have no idea what you are talking about

Support for Israel is an ideological cause for the Democratic party.

Note, for example, President Obama's recent remarks:

It’s particularly important to remember now, given the tumult that is taking place in so many corners of the globe, in one of the world’s most dangerous neighborhoods, those shared values compel us to reaffirm that our enduring friendship with the people of Israel and our unbreakable bonds with the state of Israel -- that those bonds, that friendship cannot be broken. (Applause.) Those values compel us to say that our commitment to Israel’s security -- and my commitment to Israel’s security -- is and always will be unshakeable. (Applause.)

And I’ve said this before: It would be a moral failing on the part of the U.S. government and the American people, it would be a moral failing on my part if we did not stand up firmly, steadfastly not just on behalf of Israel’s right to exist, but its right to thrive and prosper. (Applause.) Because it would ignore the history that brought the state of Israel about. It would ignore the struggle that’s taken place through millennia to try to affirm the kinds of values that say everybody has a place, everybody has rights, everybody is a child of God. (Applause.)

As many of you know, I’ve visited the houses hit by rocket fire in Sderot. I’ve been to Yad Vashem and made that solemn vow: “Never forget. Never again.” When someone threatens Israel’s citizens or its very right to exist, Israelis necessarily that seriously. And so do I. Today, the military and intelligence cooperation between our two countries is stronger than ever. Our support of the Iron Dome’s rocket system has saved Israeli lives. And I can say that no U.S. President, no administration has done more to ensure that Israel can protect itself than this one.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/05/22/remarks-president-jewish-american-heritage-month

[geek tragedy]

22. .

It would ignore the struggle that’s taken place through millennia to try to affirm the kinds of values that say everybody has a place, everybody has rights, everybody is a child of God. (Applause.)

Israel no longer stands for such values. They treat the Palestinians like dogs.

And that's becoming increasingly hard to deny.

The Republicans support today's Israel. Obama supports an Israel that is no more and never again will be

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. Israeli zionism has been corrupted by their right wing.

And the majority of Israel's population either doesn't seem to give a shit or wants what Likrud is feeding them.

As a society they are screwed.

[King_David]

27. That presumes Israel is seen by Democratic Party leaders as you do

Which is not true.

Keep trying though but I think your in the wrong party .... Because your views on Israel would be considered extremist by our party and there is nobody espousing such extreme views on Israel within the Democratic Party....

The stuff you wrote about the Democratic Party forsaking its support for Israel is pure unadulterated rubbish and more wishful thinking on your behalf.

[oberliner]

29. These remarks were made in May of this year

The values that Israeli stands for have not changed since May.

You are obviously welcome to have whatever perception of Israel you want to have, but it is not accurate to claim that your views are in line with those of President Obama and the Democratic party because they aren't.

[geek tragedy]

32. Obama is a politician.

Israel is much more popular amongst elites than it is amongst ordinary Americans.

Obama is worried that Israel will become what it already is. His I/P policy has been well-intentioned but deeply naive.

[oberliner]

34. But he is not a rightwing politician

You wrote that supporting Israel was a rightwing cause. And you wrote that was not even debatable as a factual matter.

Yet President Obama is not rightwing and he proudly states (this year) that no administration has done more to ensure that Israel can protect itself than this one.

[geek tragedy]

35. Obama is heterodox.

And there are lots of "liberal on everything but Israel" types. People support Israel despite being liberals, not because they are liberals. The pro-Israel folks in this forum don't cite liberal sources and opinion pieces, but rather rightwing ones. And outbursts of explicit racism (calling liberals "Arab-pologists" etc) with claims that it's antisemitic to oppose apartheid and ethnic cleansing--as if those practices are considered unacceptable "only when Jews do it."

Obama's argument is a sophisticated rationalization. It is rightwing values--militarism, religious fervor, anti-Arab racism--which bond Israel and the United States.

Obama has tried to support Israel while emphasizing liberal values and his Israel policy has been a complete failure as a result. The liberal values emphasis has been the cause of all of his conflict with Israel, and is the reason why most Israelis hate his guts.

he's the last of his kind you'll see in the White House.

Going forward, US/Israel relations will not have the liberal values component to them. It will be completely one-sided, with president's giving Israel money, weapons and diplomatic support, and not raising a stink about the occupation (unless Bernie gets elected). No more even pretenses of a peace process or US role in trying to resolve the conflict.

The reasons for this unconditional support will be strictly for domestic purposes--policy will not be driven by actual concern for Israel's future, but rather to accede to the domestic politics. The U.S. will not oppose Israel's occupation/annexation even if winds up destroying the state of Israel.

That is not our concern.

That's the support Israel wants--that of an unquestioning sponsor. And that's what they will get until they reach the South Africa phase, at which the U.S. will drop them like a hot rock.

Obama tried in vain to help Israel protect its future. Less sentimental figures will drive policy going forward.

[oberliner]

36. Elizabeth Warren: To me, it is a moral imperative to support and defend Israel

The U.S.-Israel Relationship and Middle East Peace

Since its founding more than 60 years ago, Israel and the United States have been steadfast, trusted, and reliable allies. I unequivocally support the right of a Jewish, democratic state of Israel to exist, and to be safe and secure. The U.S.-Israel relationship is rooted in shared values and common interests, based on a commitment to liberty, pluralism, and the rule of law. These values transcend time, and they are the basis of our unbreakable bond.

To me, it is a moral imperative to support and defend Israel, and I am committed to ensuring its long-term security by maintaining its qualitative military edge. Israel must be able to defend itself from the serious threats it faces from terrorist organizations to hostile states, including Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and others.

I am also a strong proponent of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which I believe to be in the interest of Israel and the United States, with a Jewish, democratic state of Israel and a state for the Palestinian people. The U.S. can and should play an active role in promoting a diplomatic resolution to the conflict that is agreed to by the parties, but I do not believe that a lasting peace can be imposed from the outside or that either party should take unilateral steps - such as the Palestinians' application for UN membership - that move the parties further away from negotiations.

I am also deeply proud that Israel and Massachusetts are natural economic allies. Like Massachusetts, Israel has a real commitment and advantage in high-tech and innovative industries. There are approximately 100 companies in Massachusetts with Israeli founders or based on Israeli technologies - creating $2.4 billion in value and thousands of jobs for our economy.

As a United States Senator, I will work to ensure Israel's security and success, and I will support active American leadership to help bring peace and security to Israel and the region.

http://origin.elizabethwarren.com/issues/foreign-policy

Elizabeth Warren is a no BS liberal. I believe her words about Israel speak for themselves. You are just wrong on this one, with all due respect.

[geek tragedy]

39. Same position as noted liberals

George W Bush and Benjamin Netanyahu.

her statement is AIPAC boilerplate, not some amazing statement of liberal values.

100% of Republicans voted to support Israel re: the Iran deal. Only 10% of Democrats did.

[King_David]

38. Your while post is a bunch of rubbish.

0 % Reality
100% wishful thinking
100% Rubbish

[Little Tich]

28. What are those shared values exactly?

I do understand that Republicans share values to a great extent with Israel, both the current Israeli government and any other possible future government, but what values would possibly be shared between Democratic American values and Israeli ones?

What is the Democratic cause for Israel?

[oberliner]

30. President Obama and other prominent Democrats have spoken at length on this topic

Feel free to do your own research into the matter if you are interested.

Here's another speech from President Obama to get you started:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/03/21/remarks-president-barack-obama-people-israel

[Little Tich]

31. That's some weak sauce...

The only values that were mentioned were economic prosperity and security. What about civil rights like social justice and equal opportunity? What about freedom from discrimination?


Aren't these the values that somehow are connected with the Democratic Party, or is this speech just a PEP talk? It seems as if Obama is actually trying to avoid mentioning any specifics about what those shared values actually are...

[oberliner]

37. Commitment to democracy, the rule of law, freedom of religion and speech and human rights

Those would be the core shared values that are most often cited by Democrats with respect to Israel.

[King_David]

23. If that's the case Bernie Sanders is right wing ?

[geek tragedy]

24. He's old school

There's a great deal of residual support for Israel that's based on history rather than present reality.

[King_David]

26. And the extremist right wing antisemitic homophobic types such as David Duke

Go on and on about Apartheid Israel, are single issue ,support BDS and use the most extreme language on Israel and that is not a Democratic Party trait and yet we have such poster here in this group ( not you)

That's hardly left wing .

Also supporting groups who exhibit the worst kind of sexism against women , homophobia to the worst extreme and religious intolerance is hardly left wing either.

[geek tragedy]

33. I agree with your last paragraph 100%.

But those types of people are the ones put in charge of religious affairs by Israel.

And they're heavily represented in the current government.

Being more advanced than Saudi Arabia does not mean they share values with Sweden or France.

[hack89]

40. Bernie is a big supporter of Israel, isn't he? Nt

[geek tragedy]

41. He's probably the least supportive candidate running

Every Republican is more supportive, as is Hillary.

[hack89]

42. You are really splitting hairs there.

Can you show where he strongly opposes what is happening? Silence strikes me as support.

[geek tragedy]

43. He boycotted Netanyahu's speech and has

expressed his personal lack of respect for Netanyahu.

[hack89]

44. So?

If elected president, how would his policies towards Israel be different from HRC's?

[oberliner]

45. "The United States will stand by our long-standing friendship and support for the nation of Israel"

Senator Sanders Statement on Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Speech to Congress

WASHINGTON, March 3 – In a statement after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech to Congress, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today renewed his support for diplomatic efforts by the United States and other world powers to negotiate an agreement to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

“More than a decade of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost us thousands of lives and trillions in treasure and made a difficult situation even worse. Those experiences should reinforce our resolve to make every diplomatic effort to avoid another rush to war,” Sanders said.

“It goes without saying that Iran must not be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. It goes without saying that the United States will stand by our long-standing friendship and support for the nation of Israel. Unfortunately, Prime Minister Netanyahu did not offer any serious alternatives to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

“At this point, harsher sanctions won’t stop Iran’s nuclear program. Neither would a dangerous resort to military action. The sanctions currently in place have brought Iran to the bargaining table and current negotiations resulted in Iran freezing its nuclear program. And for the past year, Iran has been subject to heightened international inspections. All of those things have made us safer.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senator-sanders-statement-on-prime-minister-netanyahus-speech-to-congress

Like Sanders, I support Israel but do not like Netanyahu. That's a pretty common position among Democrats. About sixty House members and Senators skipped his speech.

Sanders has repeatedly expressed his support for Israel - I am not sure why you keep pretending otherwise.

[leftynyc]

12. Hamas behaving like the terrorists

they are shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

[6chars]

14. At some point Israel will have to react and protect its citizens

Then Hamas can use more human shields and get more praise from the defenders human rights.

[Little Tich]

15. The Hamas clip is indeed genuine, unfortunately.

It's goddamn awful that they're trying to encourage young people to just kill a random Jewish stranger like that. They're exploiting the alienation that many young Palestinians feel in the most heinous way, and they don't care about the suffering they cause, both for the attackers and their victims.

This is some crazy shit.