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Mon Oct 12, 2015, 07:46 PM

 

New video shows accused stabber posed no threat when shot

http://972mag.com/new-video-shows-accused-stabber-posed-no-threat-when-shot/112593/

Last Saturday an Israeli policeman shot and killed Fadi Alloun, a 19-year-old resident of the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Issawiya, after he was suspected of stabbing a 15-year-old Israeli near Jerusalem’s Damascus Gate.

A video that went viral following the incident shows young Jewish Israelis egging on the policemen to kill Alloun, despite the fact that it is unclear from the video whether he posed a threat when an officer shot him numerous times. The Israeli media reported that he was shot while “trying to escape from the security forces that began chasing him. After refusing to release his grip on the knife, the forces shot and killed him.”

It was clear that that first part was a lie from the get go: Alloun never tried to escape. However, a new video that captures the scene from a different angle shows that Alloun wasn’t holding a knife when he was shot, and therefore did not pose a threat. Moreover, this was the reason an officer who stood near the person filming the incident chose not to shoot Alloun. He chose neither to shoot nor use his weapon as threat as Alloun walked by him. He didn’t shoot when the teenagers nearby yelled “Shoot him, bitch!” or “Pepper spray? What kind of policemen are you?” while warning Alloun that he was “about to die.” When it was all over, the police officer who refused to shoot Alloun became the target of verbal abuse by those same teenagers.

And while this particular policeman acted appropriately, additional officers who arrived on the scene chose to act differentkly. Seconds after they exit their vehicles, one of the teenagers — who would later celebrate Alloun’s killing by shouting “death to Arabs” — tells the officers that Alloun had just stabbed someone and that they should shoot without any attempt to subdue him. The officers did not even yell at Alloun to throw down the knife — that’s because there was no knife and Alloun posed no threat. They did not even yell at him to give up or to let him know that he was under arrest.



This is still another extrajudicial murder by Israelis pretending to be cowboys, but now that there is more video evidence that this was an extrajudicial killing the deniers will still come out and make excuses for zionism flipped on its head.

Palestinian lives matter.

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Reply New video shows accused stabber posed no threat when shot (Original post)
R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2015 OP
oberliner Oct 2015 #1
geek tragedy Oct 2015 #2
oberliner Oct 2015 #3
geek tragedy Oct 2015 #4
oberliner Oct 2015 #5
Little Tich Oct 2015 #6
King_David Oct 2015 #7
azurnoir Oct 2015 #8
King_David Oct 2015 #12
azurnoir Oct 2015 #15
King_David Oct 2015 #17
azurnoir Oct 2015 #19
King_David Oct 2015 #20
Little Tich Oct 2015 #10
King_David Oct 2015 #13
King_David Oct 2015 #14
Little Tich Oct 2015 #16
King_David Oct 2015 #18
King_David Oct 2015 #21
Little Tich Oct 2015 #22
King_David Oct 2015 #23
Little Tich Oct 2015 #24
shira Oct 2015 #25
oberliner Oct 2015 #9
Little Tich Oct 2015 #11

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:14 PM

1. What is he doing right before he gets shot?

 

At the 0:51 mark.

I cannot imagine this person not getting shot by police in the USA under similar circumstances - probably much more quickly.

If you just stabbed a child and you are surrounded by police officers you should probably get down on the ground and/or put your hands over your head and stop moving.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:28 PM

2. You're assuming he did the stabbing.

 

Given that Israeli cops are generally racist assholes and here proven liars ...

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:02 PM

3. That's true

 

I should not make that assumption.

But, that aside, can you tell what he is doing right before he gets shot?

This video raises some serious questions, and I would like to gather more information.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:12 PM

4. Generally, if there's no action endangering anyone

 

it's not considered okay for police to shoot someone.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 09:16 PM

5. Indeed

 

But if this person actually did stab a 15 year old kid and ignored police instructions, I can see how that might lead to him being shot by police officers. The video might not tell the whole story. I would certainly hope people would want to find out more details, as I do, before jumping to conclusions.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:51 PM

6. I think you're completely wrong.

Show me a clip of an American cop killing an unarmed man in a similar situation that wasn't prosecutable...

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:56 PM

7. You kidding ? Right ?

Video: Cops Shot, Killed 12-Year-Old Two Seconds After Arriving at Park

http://gawker.com/video-cops-shot-12-year-old-two-seconds-after-arriving-1663814827


( I await the : but but but but ...)

And the enquiry just exonerated the police.

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Response to King_David (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:00 AM

8. Thanks for the 2 things you just did

first you admit the Israeli police not to mention other security engage in racism and second you also seem to justify it too

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:54 AM

12. Why you thanking me and fabricating intention on my behalf

The poster was adamant it doesn't happen in the USA - I proved him wrong.

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Response to King_David (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:33 AM

15. Did I ? so you admit the Israeli police were in the wrong?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:03 AM

17. When did you stop beating your children ?

The poster said this does not happen in the USA and I proved him wrong.

You may want to direct this conversation to whatever topic you want but I ain't biting .

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Response to King_David (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:51 AM

19. what's the problem here I am asking directly were the Israeli police in the wrong ?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:40 AM

20. We won't know that for a while...

If he had just stabbed a 15 year old Jew and there was imminent danger to anyone else - yes.

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Response to King_David (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:47 AM

10. But, but, but that boy was holding a replica gun - the Palestinian wasn't holding anything...

BTW do you really think it was justified to kill that kid?

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:54 AM

13. As predicted. nt

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:08 AM

14. Here's another from Canada :

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Response to King_David (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 06:38 AM

16. But, but, but Sammi Yatim was waving a knife, and the Palestinian (Alloun) wasn't even holding a

knife.

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:40 AM

18. There's always a "but".....

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:49 AM

21. The Canadian kid was locked in the train

And no danger to anyone.

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Response to King_David (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:28 AM

22. Fortunately, the Canadians don't consider the shooting to be business as usual,

and they are actually prosecuting the police officer who shot Sammi Yatim.

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:39 AM

23. Goalpost moved from "it doesn't happen in other democratic countries "

To the prosecution.... What's next ?

LOL

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Response to King_David (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:55 AM

24. I think both of us have managed to prove our points here.

There are obviously both similarities and differences between police shootings in different democratic countries.

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:58 AM

25. But there's one thing you're forgetting. In the US, UK, Canada, Australia....

 

....the police there aren't constantly in the business of protecting against people who are brainwashed, paid, & glorified to be martyrs by an enemy (just a few miles away) to kill their citizens.

Let's not even pretend the US, UK, Canada, Australia, France, etc... would act more restrained or more "civil" than Israel if that were the case.

There is no comparison.

In times of war WRT civilians, Israel already is more restrained & "civil" than all other western nations.

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Response to Little Tich (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:03 AM

9. You have no idea what you are talking about

 

Cop Shoots Unarmed Man to Death After He Was “Walking With a Purpose”

http://filmingcops.com/cop-shoots-unarmed-man-to-death-after-he-was-walking-with-a-purpose/

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Response to oberliner (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:56 AM

11. At least Bolinger was walking with intent, so I suppose it was OK to kill him.




Alloun wasn't even walking with intent towards anyone, so it was obviously an execution...

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