Another Netanyahu clarification: Nazis, not mufti, decided on Holocaust

[oberliner]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has issued a further clarification to controversial remarks he made about the Holocaust, this time stressing he never meant to claim that an Islamic leader persuaded Adolf Hitler to adopt the Final Solution to kill European Jews.

In a Facebook post Friday, Netanyahu attempted to clarify remarks he had made October 20 in which he gave an account of a meeting between Hitler and Jerusalem's then-grand mufti, Haj Amin al-Husseini.

"Contrary to the impression that was created, I did not mean to claim that in his conversation with Hitler in November 1941 the mufti convinced him to adopt the Final Solution. The Nazis decided on that by themselves," the post on Netanyahu's Facebook page reads.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/world/netanyahu-hitler-grand-mufti-holocaust/index.html

[Fred Sanders]

1. Just like when he said no to a two state solution and then "clarified" that he was lying then and

definitely not lying now when he now says he supports a two state solution....within a few days?

Damn liberal media!

Bibi has no credibility left for anything he says.

[Little Tich]

2. Not impressed. He's still a Hitler apologist. n/t

[Scootaloo]

3. It's not really hte sort of thing you can walk back...

Especially when your walkback isn't saying "I was wrong" but instead pointing a finger and going "You were wrong"

[shira]

4. CNN attempted to whitewash the Mufti at the end of this article...

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CNN didn't offer any counter-evidence proving the Mufti wanted to kill the Jews.

In his Life interview, Husseini challenged claims that he was ever a Hitlerite. In fact, he insisted that he and fellow Muslims "don't mean to eliminate the Jews. Not at all."

"No, the elimination of the Jews is not in our program," said Husseini. "We have no idea of wiping them out. The Jews lived among us for 13 centuries as a minority, and we protected them."

This is worse than anything Bibi said. Of course, those most offended by Israel's mere existence won't call for a retraction from CNN.

[Little Tich]

6. Is there any actual evidence that the Mufti wanted to "kill the Jews"?

I didn't really find anything about the Mufti that would fit such a description. I feel that there are many attempts to connect the Mufti to the Holocaust that are not based in reality.

[Israeli]

7. Adolf, Amin and Bibi ....

Uri Avnery

31/10/15

IT IS not very pleasant when serious people around the world – historians, psychiatrists, diplomats – ask themselves if my prime minister is completely sane.

But this is happening now. And not only abroad. More and more people in Israel are asking themselves the same question.

All this is the result of one event. But people are now looking at many other events - past and present – in a new light.

Until now, many strange actions and utterances by Binyamin Netanyahu have been seen as the manipulations of a clever politician, a talented demagogue who knows the soul of his constituents and supplies them with ample lies.

Not anymore. A troubling suspicion is getting around: that our prime minister has serious mental problems. Is he losing his marbles?

IT ALL started two weeks ago, when Netanyahu made a speech to a world-wide Zionist assembly. What he said was shocking.

Adolf Hitler, he pontificated, did not really want to exterminate the Jews. He just wanted to expel them. But then he met the Mufti of Jerusalem, who convinced him to "burn" the Jews.

Thus the Holocaust was born.

The conclusion? Hitler was not so bad after all. The Germans are not really to blame. It was the Palestinians who were the instigators of the murder of six million Jews.

If the subject had been different, this speech could be considered as one of the usual lies and falsifications typical of Netanyahu. Hitler was really not so bad, the Palestinians are to blame, the Mufti was the forerunner of Mahmoud Abbas. Just a routine piece of political propaganda.

But this concerns the Holocaust, of the most atrocious events of modern times, and by far the most important event in modern Jewish history. This event has a direct bearing on the lives of half the Jewish population of Israel (including myself) who lost their relatives in the Holocaust, or are themselves survivors.

This speech was not just a minor political manipulation, one of those we have become accustomed to since Netanyahu became prime minister. This was something new, something awful.

ALL AROUND the world there was an outcry. There are many thousands of experts on the Holocaust. Innumerable books have been written on Nazi Germany (including one by me).

Every single detail has been researched over and over again.

Holocaust survivors were shocked, because Netanyahu was really absolving Hitler, and the Germans in general, of the main blame for the horrendous crime. So Hitler was not so bad, after all. He just wanted to expel the Jews, not to kill them. It was the evil Arabs who induced him to commit the atrocity of atrocities.

Angela Merkel did the decent thing and issued an immediate denial, assuming again the total blame of the German people. Thousands of furious articles appeared around the world, many hundreds of them in Israel.

This particular utterance of Netanyahu's was not just stupid, not just ignorant. It borders on the insane..............

A MUFTI is a religious scholar, a high ranking authority in an Islamic society, well above a mere judge. A Grand Mufti is the highest local religious authority. In Islam there is no pope.

The Grand Mufti in this story is Hajj Amin al-Husseini, who was chosen by the British authorities in Palestine for the office of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. As it turned out, this was a grave mistake.

The man who made the mistake was a Jew – Herbert Samuel, the first High Commissioner of the British Mandated territory of Palestine after World War I. Young Hajj Amin was already known as a firebrand, and Samuel followed the well-established colonial practice of appointing enemies to high office, to quiet them down.

The Husseini family is the foremost Hamula (extended family) in Jerusalem. It has some 5000 members and occupies an entire neighborhood. It is one of the three or four most distinguished families in town, and for many generations a Husseini has been either the Mufti, the mayor or another dignitary in Arab Jerusalem.

Hajj Amin (hajj is the appellation of a Muslim who has made the obligatory pilgrimage to Mecca) was a trouble-maker right from the beginning. He saw early on the danger of the Zionist immigration for the Arab community in Palestine, and several times incited anti-British and anti-Jewish riots. These came to a head in the Great Rebellion of 1936 – known to the Jews as "the events" – which shook the country for three years, until World War II.
During "the events", many Jews and many British were killed, but most of the victims were Arabs. The Mufti (as everybody called him) used the opportunity to have all his rivals and competitors killed off. For the Jews in Palestine he became the symbol of evil, the object of intense hatred.

By now, the British, too, had had enough of him. They chased the Mufti out of the country. He went to Lebanon, but when this country was occupied by the British in World War II (to drive out the troops of the French Vichy regime) the Mufti fled to Iraq, which was in the hands of anti-British and pro-Nazi rebels. When the British re-conquered Iraq, the Mufti fled to Italy, which was leading the Fascist "Axis" effort to win over the Arabs. The Mufti, whose main enemies were the British, acted upon the theory that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. (At the same time, a leader of the Jewish underground in Palestine, Abraham Stern, acting upon the same theory, also sought contact with the Italians and Germans.)

It seems that the Italians were not too keen on having Hajj Amin around, so the Mufti moved to Nazi Germany. At the time, the SS was trying to enlist Muslim volunteers for the war against Russia, and somebody had the bright idea that a picture of the Grand Mufti with Hitler might be useful.

Hitler did not like the idea at all. He was a true believer in the race theory, and the Arabs are Semites – an inferior and detestable race, just like the Jews. But in the end he was weighed upon to receive this Arab refugee for what we now call a "photo opportunity". A picture was taken – the only picture of the only meeting between these two persons. (There are also photos of the Mufti with Muslim Bosnian SS volunteers).

The meeting was short, a perfunctory protocol was taken, the Jews appear nowhere in it.[*] The whole episode was insignificant. Until Netanyahu.

It is ridiculous to crown the Mufti as the father of the Palestinian nation. In all my hundreds of meetings with Palestinians, from Arafat down, I have never heard a good word about Hajj Amin, not even from the wonderful Faisal al-Husseini, a remote relative. They unanimously described him as a real Palestinian patriot, but a person with limited education and narrow-minded outlook, who bears part of the blame for the disaster that befell the Palestinian people in 1948. The bloodbath he carried out among the Palestinians in the 1936-1939 rebellion weakened the Palestinians so much, that when the crucial test came – the 1947 partition of Palestine and the 1948 war – the nation was devoid of any effective leadership.

The idea that the mighty Fuehrer needed or heeded the advice of a fugitive Semite in order to decide on the Holocaust is preposterous. Indeed, it is crazy.

Also, the dates don't jibe. The photo-meeting took place at the end of 1941. The extermination started immediately after the conquest of Poland in 1939, and took on its monstrous dimensions with the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in the middle of 1941. It acquired its final, industrial format when Heinrich Himmler, the SS chief, decided that "one cannot demand of a decent German" to shoot all this Jewish scum. The Mufti had absolutely nothing to do with this, and the very idea is insane.

Until 1939, Hitler did indeed further the expulsion of the Jews, because physical extermination in a peaceful Europe was unthinkable. But once the war broke out, he saw at once the chance for mass extermination – and said so quite openly.

SO HOW did this son of a "renowned historian" come to say this crazy thing?). (This appellation of Ben-Zion Netanyahu is now de rigueur in the Israeli media, though I never met anyone who has read his work on the Spanish inquisition.)

Perhaps he heard it from some crackpot hired by Sheldon Adelson – but even so, the fact that he did not reject it outright shows not only that he is a complete ignoramus about the most important chapter in modern Jewish history, but also that he may have some mental problem.

In this light, many others of his decisions now look different, including this week's decision to take measures to cancel the "inhabitant" status of tens of thousands of Arab Jerusalemites.

When East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel in 1967, the inhabitants were not granted Israeli citizenship, only reduced resident's rights, which deny them the right to vote for the Knesset. They were graciously allowed to apply for citizenship individually, but, of course, almost nobody did, since this would mean recognition of the annexation.

Now I am afraid. If indeed we are governed by a man with mental problems – just where is he leading us?

[*] `Some of my friends complained to me that my last article contained – as Churchill would have put it – a terminological inexactitude.

I wrote that the Jews were not mentioned at the Hitler-Husseini meeting. That is a gross exaggeration. Everyone who knows anything about Hitler knows that the Fuehrer could not utter three sentences without mentioning the Jews. (Another gross exaggeration.)

The English version of the official transcript contains a total of about 2250 words. The Jews are mentioned 12 times - three times by Hajj Amin and nine times by Hitler. Hitler used all his stock phrases, the Mufti used blatant flattery. No one said anything new. Hitler politely rejected all the Mufti's requests.

According to Hitler the Jews ruled Britain and the Soviet Union (the US was not yet in the war.) If Italy and Japan had been on the other side, Hitler would have added them to the list.
At the time, November 1941, the extermination by the Einsatzkommandos was already in full swing. Obviously the Mufti did not know anything about this, nor did Hitler tell him. It was State Secret No. 1.

The transcript has been known for a long time. If Netanyahu's preposterous assertions had been true, our super-efficient propaganda machine would have reminded us and the world every single day.

About the Nazi's' regard for the Mufti: Hajj Amin stayed in Germany for another four years until the end of the war. Almost nothing is known about his stay there. Hitler never received him again. That's how important he was.

By the way, this week Netanyahu was compelled to issue a kind of denial – the Netanyahu kind. It says that Hitler was responsible for the Holocaust. Not one single word about the Mufti or the speech that started the whole mess.
[Clarification by Avnery, November 1.]`

Source: http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1446219610/

[shira]

8. From the Hebron Massacre to the Iraqi Farhud....

From putting together a Muslim SS unit in Yugoslavia that killed many Jews there to making a pact with Hitler to kill off the remaining Jews of the mideast after the war (with concentration camps from north Africa lined up through Palestine).

From calling for Arabs to kill the Jews on radio Berlin to sending thousands of Jews back to the ovens by sealing off Palestine.

This is all rather easy to google.

[Little Tich]

9. I have over the years been exposed to a lot of information about the Holocaust

and I feel pretty confident that I know at least the gist of it.

So, when this new villain just pops up, who until very recently was an insignificant nobody from an area that never was involved in the 2nd World War, I get a little suspicious.

I sincerely think this is just an attempt at a new form of internet based revisionism.

[shira]

10. You should google any part from my last post that you're unsure about. n/t

[Little Tich]

11. It's just so amazing that nobody connected the dots before the Sheldon Adelson think tank did.

Am I really to believe that the world's Holocaust scholars had somehow missed the connection between the Mufti and the Holocaust?

[shira]

12. A lot was written decades ago on the Mufti and his role during WW2....

I think there's a fair chance Netanyahu's "blunder" was deliberate.

He got the world's news media reporting about the Mufti (a topic that Israel haters loathe discussing because it's hard to portray the Mufti as a victim). If Bibi hadn't linked the Mufti to the Final Solution, the media wouldn't have covered his speech at all.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. I guess the Grand Mufti had some soul brothers in the stern gang.

Palling Around with Nazis: Netanyahu’s political ancestors are also guilty by association

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/netanyahus-ancestors-association

As for a strategic alliance, al-Husayni and Hitler never hashed out a deal, though they did maintain an acquaintanceship. When it comes to Nazism, guilt by association goes a long way, and there’s no reason for history to be kind to al-Husayni. (Accurate would be nice, though.)

But guess who else reached out to the Nazis looking for a partnership? A group known as Lehi (or the ‘Stern Gang’), a Zionist militia which had split from the Irgun – itself a splinter of the main Jewish army, the Haganah – in 1940. (Each breakaway militia felt the tactics of its parent group weren’t aggressive enough.)

The Zionist militias were looking for help seizing Palestine from the British, so it made sense to align themselves with Hitler. They offered to help fight on Germany’s side, in exchange for the transfer of Europe’s Jews to Palestine and Hitler’s support of a ‘totalitarian’ Jewish state. As Tel Aviv University history professor Yaacov Shavit writes, when a Lehi representative met with a Nazi diplomat in Beirut in January 1941, “he proposed a political as well as military cooperation leading to the establishment of a Jewish state on a nationalist and totalitarian footing, that would be linked by a treaty to the German Reich.”

Hitler didn’t respond to the overtures – as Shavit explains, “All that Lehi could in effect have offered Germany as its contribution to the Nazi war effort, was to act as a fifth column and try to place obstacles in the way of the British in Palestine“ – and the deal stalled.

[shira]

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[R. Daneel Olivaw]

17. How to identify when YOU fall on your face...

you tragically run for the cut and paste.

Just remember, every time you attempt ti vilify the Palestinians as being NAZIS, I will point out how elements of the future Israel were attempting to play footsie with the Third Reich.

Every time.

[shira]

19. So pointing out how the Mufti was a Nazi is vilifying all Palestinians....

How fascinating.

Meanwhile, trying to save thousands of Jews is just as bad as siding with Hitler.

Great logic you're sporting there, Chief.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

20. We all know your schtick, shira. Nice try.

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I guess that you believe that Jewish terrorists making a deal with a NAZI is a positive thing?

[shira]

21. Making a deal with Nazi Germany to save untold thousands of Jews is bad? n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

22. Oh, how you love to rationalize evil...IMHO.

For all reading this, let's set the facts straight.

1. Stern, was a terrorist outfit.

2. Stern tried to cut a deal with Hitler: the universal NAZI. Stern wanted the NAZIs to send Jews to Palestine, and in turn Stern would fight the British along side the NAZIs. Fucking evil.

3. Hitler was fucking evil.

4. Apparently Stern was fucking evil as well.

And some are trying to argue that Stern were the good guys.

...and that is just fucking vile.

...but at least we now understand where they are voming from.

[shira]

23. So let's summarize. Lehi tried saving Jews....

...and in return they would fight the British colonists who they were already fighting in Palestine.

I don't know where you get that Lehi or Stern would fight alongside the Nazis against the Brits, as if to help the Nazis in their bombing blitz of London.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. You have misrepresented the truth twice. Shame on you.

..and in return they would fight the British colonists

There were no British colonies in Palestine, shira. That was either a flat-out lie on your part...IMHO, or you are woefully historically illiterate.

There were British soldiers and civilians in Palestine: Stern killed both types.

I don't know where you get that Lehi or Stern would fight alongside the Nazis against the Brits, as if to help the Nazis in their bombing blitz of London.

I never mentioned that Stern would help the Nazis "in their bombing blitz of London" as you have erroneously reported.

Again, that is either another flat-out lie, concocted by you, or you can't even follow a thread without drifting into fantasy.

Stern did make attempts to fight along side the Nazis WRT attacking the British in Palestine.


But I have already made that clear.


Now that I have shown how disreputable you are, are you going to go back and attempt to rationalize jewish terrorists trying to hook up with the NAZIs again?

[shira]

25. Actually, you do a great job of that all by yourself.

And of course the Brits were colonialists in Palestine. They were the Colonial power there. I'm surprised you don't know what actual Colonialism is.

Stern and Lehi went after military targets, not civilian.

You also wrote that Stern would fight alongside the Nazis. Do you now regret making that one up? There were no Nazis in Palestine, so which Nazis would Stern be fighting alongside? Riddle us that one.

============

Your attempts to equate the saving of Jewish lives with the Mufti - who was an actual Nazi - are beyond contempt.

The Brits were deliberately stopping Jews from coming to Palestine. I'm not sure why you'd think the moral thing to do would be to do nothing about that and let tens of thousands of Jews die going back to the ovens in Europe.

Now this is where we see just how morally bankrupt your position is: What should have been done to save those Jews?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. The British were not colonizing Palestine, shira.

You really should stop being disingeuous in order to win an argument you have already comically lost.

In addition your word salad of the day does not change the fact that...

1. The Jewish terrorist group "Stern" wanted to make a deal with the NAZIs in order to fight the British in Palestine. Jews siding with NAZIs to fight the Allies.

2. Your continued defence of Stern, aka Jewish Terrorists that murdered in the name of zionism, while they wanted to deal with NAZIs in order to attack the British is a position that I would expect from somebody that quotes Stormfront without breaking a sweat.

3. There is a rather evil name for Jews that worked alongside the NAZIs. Do you want to be remembered for defending that kind of people?

[shira]

27. Again you don't mention Lehi was trying to save untold thousands of Jews....

You're trying to portray it as Lehi wanting to side with the Nazis against the Brits, for no apparent reason other than to be allies with the Nazis.



What would motivate you to do that, while simultaneously attempting to deflect from a genuine Nazi like the Mufti?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

28. "You're trying to portray it as Lehi wanting to side with the Nazis against the Brits"

Your heros, shira, Jewish terrorists, a title you have not once disagreed with were playing footsie with the NAZIs in order to ally with them against the British

Why you seemingly idolize them...?

Stern were attempting to form an alliance with the NAZIs, and you continue to fall on your face with your excuses justifying them.

When you argue for Stern you might as well be arguing fir Hanas.

[shira]

29. What should Lehi have done or offered to save countless thousands of Jews? n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

30. Strange that you keep on promoting Jewish terrorists...

"Meanwhile, the Lehi wanted to make a deal with Hitler..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)


]Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine. Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis. During World War II it declared that it would establish a Jewish state based upon "nationalist and totalitarian principles". After Stern's death in 1942, the new leadership of Lehi began to move it towards support for Joseph Stalin's Soviet Union. In 1944 Lehi officially declared its support for National Bolshevism. It said that its National Bolshevism involved an amalgamation of left-wing and right-wing political elements – Stern said Lehi incorporated elements of both the left and the right – however this change was unpopular and Lehi began to lose support as a result.

Lehi and the Irgun were jointly responsible for the massacre in Deir Yassin. Lehi assassinated Lord Moyne, British Minister Resident in the Middle East, and made many other attacks on the British in Palestine. On 29 May 1948, the government of Israel, having inducted its activist members into the Israel Defense Forces, formally disbanded Lehi, though some of its members carried out one more terrorist act, the assassination of Folke Bernadotte some months later, an act condemned by Bernadotte's replacement as mediator, Ralph Bunche. Israel granted a general amnesty to Lehi members on 14 February 1949. In 1980, Israel instituted a military decoration in "award for activity in the struggle for the establishment of Israel," the Lehi ribbon. Former Lehi leader Yitzhak Shamir became Prime Minister of Israel in 1983.

And some want to argue for these terrorists.

I guess that they have more in common with the grand mufti than some would like to admit for obvious reasons.


And the only one making claims about saving Jews is you. Lehi were just fuckers, so why are you defending them?

[shira]

31. Can't answer that, can you? Okay, what would you have done....

...back then to save tens of thousands of Jews? Would you have admitted them into Palestine or turned them back to Europe?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

34. Oh, you are truly god-awful at this.

Your heros, shira, Jewish terrorists, a title you have not once disagreed with were playing footsie with the NAZIs in order to ally with them against the British

Why do you seemingly idolize them...?

Stern were attempting to form an alliance with the NAZIs, and you continue to fall on your face with your excuses justifying them.

When you argue for Stern you might as well be arguing for Hamas.


What would I have done. Firstly, I wouldn't have had my head planted firmly up my ass like Stern.

Nor would I be defending them, aka terrorists, now.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

35. There is no mention of saving lives. IT was all about immigration and power. You've made that up.

God, are you awful.

[shira]

36. All about immigration - but why? Why would Lehi want Jews immigrating to Palestine....

....if not to save their lives?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

37. You fold like a cheap suit, shira, IMHO. You've got nothing but hollow slogans.

[shira]

39. It's because they wanted to save Jews. That's why they wanted immigration...

....to Israel. Why is this so difficult for you?

Are you really having problems comprehending that?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

40. Again, you have a hollow slogan. Can't you find something from Arutz Sheva at least.

Palling Around with Nazis: Netanyahu’s political ancestors are also guilty by association

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/netanyahus-ancestors-association

As for a strategic alliance, al-Husayni and Hitler never hashed out a deal, though they did maintain an acquaintanceship. When it comes to Nazism, guilt by association goes a long way, and there’s no reason for history to be kind to al-Husayni. (Accurate would be nice, though.)

But guess who else reached out to the Nazis looking for a partnership? A group known as Lehi (or the ‘Stern Gang’), a Zionist militia which had split from the Irgun – itself a splinter of the main Jewish army, the Haganah – in 1940. (Each breakaway militia felt the tactics of its parent group weren’t aggressive enough.)

The Zionist militias were looking for help seizing Palestine from the British, so it made sense to align themselves with Hitler. They offered to help fight on Germany’s side, in exchange for the transfer of Europe’s Jews to Palestine and Hitler’s support of a ‘totalitarian’ Jewish state. As Tel Aviv University history professor Yaacov Shavit writes, when a Lehi representative met with a Nazi diplomat in Beirut in January 1941, “he proposed a political as well as military cooperation leading to the establishment of a Jewish state on a nationalist and totalitarian footing, that would be linked by a treaty to the German Reich.”

Hitler didn’t respond to the overtures – as Shavit explains, “All that Lehi could in effect have offered Germany as its contribution to the Nazi war effort, was to act as a fifth column and try to place obstacles in the way of the British in Palestine“ – and the deal stalled.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

33. Oh, your revisionism knows no shame.

This is the truth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avraham_Stern

In January 1941, Stern attempted to make an agreement with the German Nazi authorities, offering to "actively take part in the war on Germany's side" in return for German support for Jewish immigration to Palestine and the establishment of a Jewish state. Another attempt to contact the Germans was made in late 1941, but there is no record of a German response in either case.[12] These appeals to Germany were in direct opposition to the views of other Zionists, such as Ze'ev Jabotinsky, who wanted Britain to defeat the Nazis even as they wanted to expel the British from Palestine.[13]

There is no mention of saving lives. IT was all about immigration and power.

You've made that up. God, are you awful.

LOL!

[Little Tich]

18. That's an interesting explanation that could contain at least a grain of truth.

I personally think that Netanyahu has lost his grip on reality.

[shira]

32. So Bibi has lost his grip, but u don't believe Abbas is a Holocaust denier? n/t

[geek tragedy]

5. If by 'clarification' one means 'complete retraction' nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

13. What is truly strange is how some keep going to bat

for Bibi the baby-killer, but then revisionist history is all the rage; even when what he has said was pretty crystal clear.

[oberliner]

16. Agreed

He should really resign.

[Crunchy Frog]

38. After consultation with a focus group. n/t