Two Assailants Killed in Three Jerusalem Stabbing Attacks

[Jefferson23]

After two weeks of relative calm in the capital, one stabbing two attempted attacks take place; three of the four assailants were shot, and two of them succumbed to their wounds.

Nir Hasson Nov 10, 2015

After two weeks of relative calm in Jerusalem, one stabbing attack and two attempted attacks took place in East Jerusalem and the Old City on Tuesday afternoon.

Two Palestinian youths, a 12- and 13-year-old, stabbed a security guard on the Jerusalem Light Rail in the Pisgat Ze'ev neighborhood of East Jerusalem. The victim was moderately wounded.

The security guard apparently managed to shoot one the assailants, and the other was apprehended by security forces.

Magen David Adom paramedics arrived on the scene at the light rail station on Aluf Yekutiel Adam Street and treated the 25-year-old guard. They transferred him to Shaare Zedek Medical Center for treatment with stab wounds to the upper body.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.685183

[Agnosticsherbet]

1. I have a 13 year old.

Why were these children out with knives.

If a leader radicalized my children to do those things, I would be awaiting trial for protecting them.

[6chars]

2. Their families will be extremely well compensated by the PA

that might make them a little less averse to the idea.

[COLGATE4]

3. Plus, if the assailant dies, they gain the added

prestige of having a 'Martyr'.

[Agnosticsherbet]

4. Child soldiers are child soldiers, no matter what organization recruits them.

For me, no amount of compensation would replace my son.

[geek tragedy]

5. They have no leaders, that's how people get radicalized, when they have no leaders

and feel no connection to anything, they feel like they have nothing to lose.

Not terribly different from race riots in the US.

[Agnosticsherbet]

6. Even rabble rousers are leaders.

Their are people who think this is a good way to protest.

And there are people who stand back and accept it.

I just think that no parent should have to bury their child.

[geek tragedy]

7. in Israel/Palestine, there's no way to solve the small scale problems without solving the large

problems

When kids 'learn' that their life has no purpose, this is what happens

[Agnosticsherbet]

8. To say we must solve the large scale problesm is saying there is nothing we can do.

Societies broken links exist at the small scale, the family, the neighbors, the community.

This type of tragedy is acceptable at some level within these children's communities. Parents, brothers and sisters, family, friends, neighborhood leaders, act as a foundation to a community and the lowest level of responsibility for the community.

Trying to fix the large scale problems is like putting new frosting on a moldy cake.

The cake is not fixed.

The solution must come from the bottom.

[geek tragedy]

9. no, saying we must solve the large scale problems is saying we must solve the large scale

problems.

When kids grow up without hope, without opportunity, without a purpose around which to organize their life, this is what happens.

Radicalism, violence, etc fester in such environments.

this is what oppression and poverty does to people

[Jefferson23]

10. Exactly. n/t

[Agnosticsherbet]

11. I will have say that I disagree.

No community should wait for those at the top to swoop down and fix their problems.

Kids are without hope because they are taught by those in their community that there is no hope. That is a learned behavior.

Poverty is always going to be with us. We do not have to surrender to radicalism and violence.

Build strong communities at the bottom and the children will be made resilient.

Waiting for saviors and messiahs is just wrong headed.

[geek tragedy]

12. oh, so you blame poor people for all of their problems, got it

you should probably throw in a reference to a 'culture of dependency' while you're trying to ignore the role that oppression, racism and poverty have on children

[Agnosticsherbet]

13. No, I am a father and I am active in my community

and in my children's lives.
I will not teach them that if they just vote for the right person, or follow the right ideology, that everything will be wonderful with the world. They have to do what they can do where they live.
I can't fix big world problems, but if there are families struggling in my community, I can seek out local help for them. If I see children with problems, I work with my neighbors to find solutions now, here, where we live.
Oppression, racism, and poverty are facts of life. They have always existed, and will be with us as long as we are recognizably human.
I talk with my children about those facts.
I am active with the schools they go to and work to seek out teachers who will help them grow.
I teach them to reach out into other communities and make friend with kids who do not share their world views or their experiences.

Oppression festers where we put to much faith and fear in leaders.
Racism festers where we allow children to be taught that they are fundamentally better than other children due to differences in heritage or our genes.

Finally, a culture of dependency is fostered where we wait for that person at the top to fix our problems.

[geek tragedy]

14. that is a very middle class, sheltered rationale for blaming

poor people for their own problems.

[Agnosticsherbet]

15. You know, it was mostly the poor who marched with Martin Luther King

in order to solve the problems of race. They did not wait for some beneficent person at the top to grace them with their rights. By working from the bottom, they organized, and forced those at the top to do something.

It is not the people at the top that work to make our schools better. We do it here at the grassroots, in PTA's, and conferences with teachers.
If it was left up to the people at the top to keep our parks clean, there would not be any parks.

I do not blame the poor, for I have been poor and homeless at times in my life.

I will not wait for someone to swoop down and solve my problems for me.

This is about the 13 year old child who tried to stab a man and lost his life. I do not accept that the only failed link that led to that tragedy was a problem at the top. There was a chain that led form that child through countless other people to the very top. Many of the children his age in his community never get to the point where they go out to stab someone. For them, they had somebody there who looked out for them, talked them, and worked to solve the problems they could at their level.

[geek tragedy]

16. well of course human beings are not merely the expressions of their own oppression

at the same time, it is awfully patronizing to tell poor people walled up in a ghetto to "pick yourselves up and stop feeling sorry for yourselves"

Especially when said poor people are under military occupation.

[Agnosticsherbet]

18. Go back and read through what I wrote, without reading between the lines. I put no words there.

The only person to write "pick yourselves up and stop feeling sorry for yourselves" is you.

[geek tragedy]

21. asdf

They did not wait for some beneficent person at the top to grace them with their rights.

...

I will not wait for someone to swoop down and solve my problems for me.

When the problems are common to the entire community, and that community is powerless to do anything about those problems . . .

[Agnosticsherbet]

50. You just delcared these communities powerless. That there is nothing they can do improve their lot

That is an amazing notion, false, but amazing.

When problems cross a community they can work together to find a means to improve things. They do not need to wait for a government.

Why do you insist that the poor are absolutely helpless?

[geek tragedy]

53. under military occupation by a foreign power? nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

54. So you are still saying these peole are utterly helpless to work with other members of their

communities to protect their children?

I don't buy it.

[geek tragedy]

55. the vast majority of Palestinian children aren't going

out and engaging in suicide attacks.

[Jefferson23]

17. You don't have to accept it, but you would need information to know if the childrens

families/upbringing is behind it. You don't know any of that and based on reports, it's
not many who never pick up a weapon and use it, it's most do not. If their families
were as egregious in their parenting as you suggest, there should be a history of
more violence perpetrated by Palestinians, but there isn't.

If you were to say that civil disobedience, en mass, is the legitimate means
for a people who have their own terrible leadership and know there is no hope
that will ever come through any Israeli leader..I would agree with that, completely.

[Agnosticsherbet]

19. I think civil disobedience is an important tool that communities have.

I would write, "Palestinian and Israeli leader."

[Jefferson23]

20. I will add that no one can, as we have seen throughout history, tell people this is it, get up

and do it and then it will happen. If the people in this conflict did that, at this point
in time, many will get killed, their kids will be killed too. So I do hope people understand the
means they could use which could become a game changer is not for any of us to judge if they
do not take that road.

We live at a safe distance from violence, and one should never underestimate the barriers
of every day life for the Palestinians as a result of Israeli policy.

[Agnosticsherbet]

51. Their children are dying, comitting suicide, effectivly. The Palestinian authority doesn't care.

[Jefferson23]

52. Abbas is a tool for Israel...he is also a corrupt fool on many levels. n/t

[shira]

22. Who's telling these kids life has no purpose? The PA, Hamas?

Team Palestine Westerners from the fascist Right and Left?

[Jefferson23]

23. Israeli policy. n/t

[shira]

24. Nice try, Palestinian kids in the W.Bank have the same opportunities....

...actually, much better opportunities compared to most children worldwide to do with their lives what they wish.

[Jefferson23]

25. You live in the land of fantasy. n/t

[shira]

26. There's nothing they can't do in the W.Bank. Gaza is another story (Hamas).

If you think I'm wrong, then make your argument.

[Jefferson23]

27. You haven't made any argument, period. Your beliefs are based on pure fantasy, like I said.

snip*Conclusions

Israel has created in the Occupied Territories a regime of separation based on discrimination, applying two separate systems of law in the same area and basing the rights of individuals on their nationality. This regime is the only one of its kind in the world, and is reminiscent of distasteful regimes from the past, such as the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Under this regime, Israel has stolen hundreds of thousands of dunam of land from the Palestinians. Israel has used this land to establish dozens of settlements in the West Bank and to populate them with hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens. Israel prohibits the Palestinians as a group from entering and using these lands, and uses the settlements to justify numerous violations of the Palestinians' human rights, such as the right to housing, to earn a livelihood, and the right to freedom of movement. The drastic change that Israel has made in the map of the West Bank prevents any real possibility for the establishment of an independent, viable Palestinian state as part of the Palestinians' right to self-determination.

The settlers, on the contrary, benefit from all the rights available to Israeli citizens living within the Green Line, and in some cases are even granted additional rights. The great effort that Israel has invested in the settlement enterprise - in financial, legal and bureaucratic terms - has turned the settlements into civilian enclaves in an area under military rule, with the settlers being given priority status. To perpetuate this situation, which is a priori illegal, Israel has continuously breached the rights of the Palestinians.

Particularly evident is Israel's manipulative use of legal tools in order to give the settlement enterprise an impression of legality. When Jordanian legislation served Israel's goals, Israel adhered to this legislation, arguing that international law obliges it to respect the legislation in effect prior to the occupation; in practice, this legislation was used in a cynical and biased manner. On the other hand, when this legislation interfered with Israel's plans, it was changed in a cavalier manner through military legislation and Israel established new rules to serve its interests. In so doing, Israel trampled on numerous restrictions and prohibitions established in the international conventions to which it is party, and which were intended to limit infringement of human rights and to protect populations under occupation.

The settlements are unlawful, and their presence leads to the violation of human rights. Accordingly, B'Tselem demands that the Israeli government act to vacate all the settlements. This process must take place while respecting the human rights of the settlers, including payment of compensation.

Vacating all the settlements is obviously a complex and protracted task. However, a number of interim steps can be taken to minimize the violation of human rights and international law. Among other steps, the Israeli government should:

Cease all new construction in the settlements, either to build new settlements or to expand existing settlements;

Freeze the planning and construction of new by-pass roads, and cease expropriation and seizure of land for this purpose;

Return to the Palestinian communities all the non-built-up areas within the municipal boundaries of the settlements and the local councils;

Abolish the special planning committees in the settlements, and hence the powers of the local authorities to prepare outline plans and issue building permits;

Cease the policy of providing incentives that encourage Israeli citizens to move to the settlements, and direct the resources to encourage settlers to relocate to areas within the borders of the State of Israel
http://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/200205_land_grab

snip*In the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, there are daily infringements of Palestinian rights as land is increasingly lost to illegal settlements,” warned the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967.

Reporting at the Human Rights Council, Makarim Wibisono said “that occupation policies constrain Palestinian life and push Palestinians to leave their land and homes, especially in area C of the West Bank, and East Jerusalem,” said the expert after his second mission to the region.
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=51206

snip*Background on East Jerusalem
Published:
1 Jan 2011
Updated:
11 May 2015

Since East Jerusalem was annexed in 1967, the government of Israel's primary goal in Jerusalem has been to create a demographic and geographic situation that will thwart any future attempt to challenge Israeli sovereignty over the city. To achieve this goal, the government has been taking actions to increase the number of Jews and reduce the number of Palestinians living in the city.

At the end of 2012, the population of the Jerusalem municipality was 815,310 Jews and others (63 percent) and 300,150 Palestinians (37 percent). 61 percent of the residents live on land that was annexed in 1967 (40 percent of whom are Jews, and 60 percent Palestinians). With Palestinians having a higher demographic growth rate (2.6 precent in 2012) than Jews (0.9 precent in 2012), Israel has used various methods to achieve its goal:

Physically isolating East Jerusalem from the rest of the West Bank, in part by building the Separation Barrier;
Discriminating in land expropriation, planning and building, and demolition of houses;
Revoking residency and social benefits of Palestinians who stay abroad for at least seven years, or who are unable to prove that their center of life is in Jerusalem;
Unfairly dividing the budget between the two parts of the city, with harmful effects to infrastructure and services in East Jerusalem.

Israel's policy gravely infringes the rights of residents of East Jerusalem and flagrantly breaches international law.
http://www.btselem.org/jerusalem

[shira]

28. What's stopping Palestinians there from being doctors or lawyers? Nothing.

What stops them from traveling overseas? Nothing, as they can go through Jordan for that.

Owning land? They should be able to do that under PA management.

There's really no reason to say Palestinian kids have no hope.

[Jefferson23]

29. Like I said, your beliefs are based on fantasy. I provided documentation that details

how wrong you are.

[shira]

30. There's nothing stopping Palestinians from living full lives.

You know very well they can be doctors or lawyers if they want, own land, travel, etc.

[Jefferson23]

31. Pure fantasy, like I said...see links in my previous post. Repeating yourself won't help you. n/t

[shira]

32. There's nothing in those links showing Palestinians in the W.Bank.....

...cannot be doctors or lawyers, own their own land under the PA, or travel outside the country (through Jordan).

[Jefferson23]

33. Yea, there is and you're still in fantasy land. n/t

[shira]

35. No there isn't. I challenge you to find anything like that in those links. n/t

[Jefferson23]

37. HA HA HA HA. You brought nothing to support your claims nor anything to refute the

sources I posted for you...all linked, and NONE are opinion pieces.

You brought your empty rhetoric, period.

You crack me up...come on shira, what's next, you'll claim a victory? lol

[shira]

39. Couldn't find anything in those links? Just acknowledge it. n/t

[Jefferson23]

40. Like I have said, pure fantasy on your part. Post links to non opinion pieces at any

time to refute those I left for you. What you're trying to justify is sickening,
as those reports demonstrate the hardship of ISRAELI POLICY. You attempted
to deny that, as you stated earlier:

shira
Palestinian kids in the W.Bank have the same opportunities....

...actually, much better opportunities compared to most children worldwide to do with their lives what they wish.



You know god damn well that any kid that makes a life going forward has done so with extreme
difficulty, but you'll attempt to claim it is the opposite.

[shira]

42. In other words, your links don't prove anything.

There is no difficulty for Palestinians in areas A or B (where 95% are in the W.Bank) or in area C if they want to become doctors or lawyers. No difficulty owning land under PA administration either.

You have nothing proving otherwise.

[Jefferson23]

45. Then post a linked report, your word is not enough. You were given reports that

demonstrate the opposite.

Where are they?

Your claim was: Palestinian kids in the W.Bank have the same opportunities....

...actually, much better opportunities compared to most children worldwide to do with their lives what they wish.

[azurnoir]

34. yes all true especially if they leave Palestine well if they're allowed to leave that is

but if they stay not so much

[shira]

36. Really? What stops Palestinians from owning land under PA administration?

What stops Palestinian children from becoming doctors or lawyers?

[azurnoir]

41. limited land area and limited opportunity to practice ones profession

[shira]

43. What? Do you just make this up as you go along?

Nothing stops Palestinian kids from being or doing anything they want, unless the PA is stopping them.

[azurnoir]

46. Do you?

[Jefferson23]

38. This was her claim, then she felt she needed to clarify they can be doctors or lawyers. lol

Palestinian kids in the W.Bank have the same opportunities....

...actually, much better opportunities compared to most children worldwide to do with their lives what they wish. ( end )


Fantasy land, that's where her beliefs are based.

[azurnoir]

44. well on a global basis if you wish to compare Palestinian children to those in Sudan or Bangladesh

or perhaps Sierra Leone or Nicaragua then yes they may better opportunity but you have to set the bar pretty low

[Jefferson23]

48. I believe her point is the oppression only comes through Gaza and Hamas..as she

stated in another post. Life is a picnic otherwise for the Palestinian children..so
much opportunity.

[azurnoir]

56. True that but I was pointing out how far one has to go to mke the comparison valid

[Jefferson23]

57. Yep. n/t

[shira]

47. (Video) Palestinians: How much do you suffer under occupation?

[Jefferson23]

49. Yea, that totally challenges the reports from the UN and B'tselem.

Your video gives the accurate account for the whole..yep...if you live
in fantasy land.

[shira]

58. B'tselem? Their top guy found through his research there was no Holocaust....

B'tselem tried to cover for him until the evidence was so overwhelming. Why do you trust B'tselem's research relating to anything Jewish?

The UNHRC is an insane asylum where Saudi Arabia has a seat - that it paid $1 million dollars for in 2013 (paying $1M for 5 years). They just recently drafted a resolution to shield themselves from a war crimes investigation in Yemen, which goes to show WHY they wanted so badly to be on the commission.

Meanwhile, Palestinians on the street report nothing you had in your links.

[Jefferson23]

59. One report is from the UN, the other B'tselem. You have told that completely false statement over

and over again about B'tselem. As I have said many times, you respect not one human rights
group, Rabbis for Human Rights, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights..doesn't matter who it
is. It says a great deal about your judgement, you despise them all.

Bottom line is you have ZERO reports to substantiate your claim, only an anecdotal
video and ZERO reports to refute those I offered you. It appears all you have is
the ability to persist in repeating yourself to no end.

[shira]

60. Nothing false about my statement on B'tselem. Their top researcher concluded.....

....there was no Holocaust.

Israeli rights group admits employee denied Holocaust
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-rights-group-admits-employee-denied-holocaust/

Israeli human rights NGO B’Tselem conceded earlier this week that one of its employees denied the Holocaust, retracting an earlier statement which had initially rejected the allegations.

The organization condemned the remarks by researcher Ataf Abu Rub, who was recorded by an undercover freelance journalist in a Channel 2 report several weeks ago as saying, “It’s a lie — I don’t believe it,” in reference to the Nazi genocide of the Jews.

How do you defend B'tselem, trying to sell them as credible when it comes to reporting about Jews?

[Jefferson23]

61. He was not a top anything, he took photographs and he was fired and you persist

in repeating distortions b/c you don't like what B'tselem has reported
on Israel. I get that about you.

[shira]

62. Defending the indefensible? Classy. Atef wasn't just a photographer......

He was a researcher, data coordinator, took testimonies...
http://www.btselem.org/download/201306_area_c_report_eng.pdf

Look for yourself.......ctrl-F on keyboard, search for "rub" without the quotation marks. It's all over that report.

[Jefferson23]

63. Your own link supports what I said not you, he did not write any reports. They fired him.

You respect no human rights group, you did the same to Rabbis for Human Rights too.
I get that about you, shira..no problem.


Researched and written by
Noga Kadman
Edited by
Yael Stein
Data coordination by
'Atef Abu a-Rub, Salma a-Deb'i, Musa Abu Hashhash, Kareem
Jubran, Suha Zeid, Iyad Hadad, Matan Mizrahi, 'Amer 'Aruri
Geographic data processed by
Shai Efrati
Translated by
Deb Reich
English edited by
Shuli Schneiderman
Cover photo
Ruins of mosque at Khirbet Yarza, Jordan Valley, demolished by the Civil
Administration. 'Atef Abu a-Rub, B’Tselem, 30 October 201

[shira]

64. Don't backtrack. You claimed he was just a photographer. That report shows Atef Abu Rub....

....was also a field researcher and data coordinator who took testimonies that somehow found their way into reports.

ETA: Abu Rub was also an investigator who reported:

Ataf Abu al-Rub, the B’Tselem investigator in the area, explains: “Sometimes these shepherds hear water trickling through the pipes that pass through their fields on the way to settlements, but they are forbidden to use it. Sometimes they hear the crackle of electricity in the high-tension wires, but the electricity is meant only for the settlers.”

Al-Rub says this is the most closed open area in the world. Four families have already left for the village, after the encampments were repeatedly destroyed and they tired of hopeless battle. The rest are persisting in a desperate fight for survival. We go out to see, driving past harvested wheat fields on our way to the sites of destruction.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/twilight-zone-gestures-to-the-palestinians-1.302315

It just gets worse and worse, doesn't it?

[Jefferson23]

65. Your own link indicates otherwise. He is listed as a photographer and a data

coordinator. NO RESEARCHER, NO WRITER..which you claimed.

A data coordinator is listed there, I did not know. How does that change anything
I said? It doesn't. He was fired, end of story.

You expect the entire organization to be suspect due to him. lol

B'tselem is highly respected internationally..you have nothing on them, except
your contempt for the truth they reveal about Israeli policy.

[shira]

66. Haaretz 2010 article shows he's an investigator, reporting the following....

Ataf Abu al-Rub, the B’Tselem investigator in the area, explains: “Sometimes these shepherds hear water trickling through the pipes that pass through their fields on the way to settlements, but they are forbidden to use it. Sometimes they hear the crackle of electricity in the high-tension wires, but the electricity is meant only for the settlers.”

Al-Rub says this is the most closed open area in the world. Four families have already left for the village, after the encampments were repeatedly destroyed and they tired of hopeless battle. The rest are persisting in a desperate fight for survival. We go out to see, driving past harvested wheat fields on our way to the sites of destruction.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/twilight-zone-gestures-to-the-palestinians-1.302315

Great investigator there, whose investigative talents led to him not believing in the Holocaust.

[Jefferson23]

68. You already have a response. n/t

[shira]

70. You said earlier he just took photographs. Nice try though. n/t

[Jefferson23]

72. Yea, and a data coordinator. I don't have to try hard with you, shira. n/t

[Jefferson23]

67. It gets worse for you, yea. He was INTERVIEWED. n/t

[shira]

69. An investigator also described by B'tselem as a field researcher....

The photographs were taken by B'Tselem field researcher Atef Abu A-Rub. The first photograph was taken some two weeks before the demolition, on 23.12.13, and shows the residents of Karzaliyah, 'Atiya Fathi Kassem Bani Minieh, against the backdrop of the community. The rest of the photographs were taken on the morning of the demolition, 8.1.14. After photographing, A-Rub was detained by soldiers at the Hamra checkpoint for over an hour. He reported hearing the soldiers tell each other that he was detained because he was filming.

http://www.btselem.org/photoblog/20140108_ein_al_carzaliyah_demolitions

Just gets worse and worse, doesn't it?

[Jefferson23]

71. See that word, photographer..his main job. As a photographer, he goes in the field to, you know.....

Keep validating the point that you have no respect for B'tselem, that a guy
they fired means nothing and you'll attempt to demean them for eternity.

Do you realize what you're doing and what that says about you?

[shira]

73. Here's an article based almost entirely on Abu Rub's field research...

http://www.btselem.org/firearms/20131111_killing_of_ahmad_tazazah

Want to defend that article? It's nearly all about his "findings". The Holocaust Denier.

Guess he wasn't just mainly a photographer - was he? Acknowledge the obvious...

See if you agree with me here - B'tselem at the very least needs to take down this article. The entire article is suspect, right?

[Jefferson23]

74. You understand that anyone's data is verified and they would have taken it down if that was

the case.

You work hard at despising B'tselem..I know, you've convinced me many times.

[shira]

75. LoL. Case closed.

You're supposed to say that an article based mainly on the findings of a Holocaust Denier, reporting against alleged Jewish crimes, is highly suspect.

And you can't even do that.

You're actually defending the work of a Holocaust denying "field researcher, data collector, and investigator" whose main job was to accuse the Jewish state of wrongdoing......in a lame effort to maintain there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to question B'tselem.

You can't criticize B'tselem, can you?

[Jefferson23]

76. You're accussing an entire organization of colluding against Israel, they verify their information

through more than one venue. That is one reason why they have earned so many awards
for their work.

Rabbis for Human Rights, UN, AI, HRW, there is no one you respect, none. Not even
B'tselem, amazing.

[shira]

78. It happens repeatedly with B'tselem employees. Jessica Montell outraged @ Lizi Sagie....

....for claiming Israel committed to Nazi values:

From google translate...

http://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1000553581&fid=2

B'Tselem executive director Jessica Montell said in response: "I'm shocked at the things. Needless to say, Lizzie's personal views Sagi not reflect the views of the organization. Things started a year ago, long before she began her work in the organization, her personal blog expressing his personal views. The attempts to organize these positions eve of Memorial Day, is false, outrageous and vicious ".

Lizi Sagi said PM (A) site "Globes": "I must emphasize: what was written on my personal blog, started before I started working B'Tselem, and express his personal only. I share the pain and difficult emotions, personal and social arise at all on Memorial Day. I understand that my words hurt, and deeply apologize for that. "

That's 2 of their employees now. Do you want to see more?

It just keeps getting worse...

[Jefferson23]

79. You don't believe them, I get that and you also do not appreciate their efforts to keep

their work respected, which it is internationally.

No, you keep getting worse with your double down take on a human rights group..very sad.

Funny how Breaking the Silence
doesn't hate them as you do, just the opposite...hmm.

These people don't appreciate them, either:

Right Wingers Claim They Deprived B'Tselem of 100,000-euro Award
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.676503


Hey, you can join up, shira.

[shira]

80. That's 2 employees, not just one. I understand you don't want to discuss that....

But why would a "Human Rights Organization" hire such people who obviously hate the Jewish state?

[Jefferson23]

77. You keep adding more on your edits: They fired him. n/t

[azurnoir]

81. Their top guy? wow what a promotion for a photographer

who very occasionally did 'research'