Pandering on Israel, Clinton equates BDS to extremism and Iran as threats to U.S.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/bragging-clinton-praises

Yesterday Hillary Clinton gave a speech in Washington at the Saban Forum of Brookings that included more pandering to Israel than any speech I’ve heard from any American politician. It was endless. Israel is a brave democracy, a light unto the nations, a miracle, its “prowess in war” is “inspiring,” and we must take the US-Israel relationship to the “next level.”

Introduced by her good friend the Israeli-American megadonor, Haim Saban, Clinton bragged that she and Israel were born a few months apart, gave a shoutout to Israel’s former lawyer in the White House, Dennis Ross, and assured Ari Shavit the rightwing Israeli columnist that the military option was still on the table with Iran. In fact, she repeatedly slammed Iran as a bad actor and did all she could to distance herself from the Iran deal and from secretary of state John Kerry, who gave a more realistic speech the day before. She never mentioned the occupation, vaguely touched on settlements as a problem, and praised the late Clintonite Sandy Berger as a “steadfast friend to Israel.”

Just as the Republican candidates had attacked Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) at the Republican Jewish Coalition last week, Clinton said that BDS was hurting the U.S.’s ability to fight terrorism. This is language straight out of Benjamin Netanyahu’s office.

I wonder if US politicians were this blind to South African apartheid as they are to Israel's now...

[oberliner]

1. The owner/namesake of Mondoweiss made a point to defend Donald Trump a few days ago

The same Donald Trump who has just called for banning all Muslims from traveling to the United States.

In case you missed it:

Trump wasn’t anti-Semitic

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. What's wrong, ober? Are you too busy shoveling BS that you can't actually post to the article?

Hoping nobody will read it?

Trump has expressed bigotry against Hispanics and Muslims, but he is surely immunized from bigotry in this case because he was describing a quality he values more than anything else, dealmaking. I don’t see how you can be anti-semitic if you’re praising a trait you love in yourself.

More important, this was a moment of truth-telling. The (mostly) men in that room are there because they’re wealthy and they’re shopping for pro-Israel candidates. I saw this same crowd at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem raising money for Mitt Romney in 2012. You didn’t get into the lunch by having good ideas. It was a $50,000-a-plate meal. Buying candidates for Israel is the name of the game. Foreign Policy wrote recently that big donors are making the pro-Israel issue the test of being Jewish– “In the Jewish community, the big donors have unnuanced views on Israel,” said one Jewish critic. Rabbi Steven Gutow of the Jewish Council on Public Affairs said a month ago that the Jewish community has given too much power to rightwing pro-Israel donors. “In our community, there is this strange hegemony of big donors demanding control of decisions.”

Again: that’s the money Trump was addressing. He knows many of them from business. The guy who introduced him even made a joke about a $10 side-bet he’d made on what Trump wouldn’t say.

You don’t think money in politics is corrupting? I do. A few weeks back Trump said that Marco Rubio would become the “perfect little puppet” of Sheldon Adelson if Adelson supports him, and it was a true statement. Rubio won’t be out-Israel’ed by anyone, as he showed yesterday in denouncing Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions in his speech, and saying Jerusalem will always be Israel’s capital, and he’ll shred the Iran deal. Trump to his credit did not make those promises. In fact, he got booed for refusing to say that Jerusalem must remain undivided. Though he loves Netanyahu, who can doubt that’s his real sentiment. What’s the source of his independence? Because he’s not looking for money, he’s not bought and paid for by the Israel lobby, as Tom Friedman once wrote about the Congress.

What Mondoweiss is doing is showing that the GOP is letting the truth slip out...their view on Israel that they only speak behind closed doors. I guess the GOP is breaking. Sad that some don't want to revel in that, ober.

But go ahead, have your phantoms if you like. Some people need their demons.

[King_David]

3. Mondoweiss is considered a hate site, Mondoweiss supported Trump and Coulter :

Mondoweiss has defended and supported the likes of Ann Coulter,

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/republicans-donors-coulters

and very recently has defended and supported Donald Trump,

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic


Mondowess has trashed both Hillary Clinton as well as Bernie Sanders.

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/sanders-economic-pussycat

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/hillary-clinton-palestinians

That Mondoweiss is used here on DU by only one particular poster is unfathomable.....

[azurnoir]

5. Mondoweiss is considered a hate site by the Canary Mission whose stated mission is to ruin the lives

of those it deems enemies of Israel/Jews no distinction seems to be made except for Phil Weiss of Mondoweiss and Jewish Voices for Peace whom they list as being the same as Hamas

http://canarymission.org/organizations/

more about Canary Mission from the Forward

A new website is publicizing the identities of pro-Palestinian student activists to prevent them from getting jobs after they graduate from college. But the website is keeping its own backers’ identity a secret.

“It is your duty to ensure that today’s radicals are not tomorrow’s employees,” a female narrator intones in a slick video posted to the website’s YouTube account.

Called Canary Mission, the site has posted profiles of dozens of students and recent graduates, alongside those of well-known activists like Omar Barghouti, founder of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. Some of the students are active in Students for Justice in Palestine; others were involved in recent pro-BDS resolutions at campuses in California. Many of them have relatively thin activist résumés.

Read more: http://forward.com/news/308902/shadowy-web-site-creates-black-list-of-pro-palestinian-activists/#ixzz3thDQ8oPb

[King_David]

6. “Mondoweiss” is a hate site (UPDATED)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/04/mondoweiss-is-a-hate-site/



Mondoweiss regularly trashes Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clindon


Mondoweiss Supports Anne Coulter and Donald Trump

[azurnoir]

7. From the Rightwing "The Volokh Conspiracy" which no longer able to stand on it's own

now works under the auspices of the also Rightwing Washington Post

[King_David]

9. Mondoweiss trashes Democrats , over and over again....

Mondoweiss has defended and supported the likes of Ann Coulter,

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/republicans-donors-coulters

and very recently has defended and supported Donald Trump,

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic


Mondowess has trashed both Hillary Clinton as well as Bernie Sanders.

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/sanders-leftwing-economic

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/sanders-economic-pussycat

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/hillary-clinton-palestinians

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. Stop with the hyperventilating. Nobody buys your crying wolf.

[King_David]

10. MJ Rosenberg wrote :

Lately I have been struck by the raw anti-semitism evinced on anti-Israel websites (most egregious example, Mondoweiss). http://mondoweiss.net/

There is nothing novel about it. It’s not “the new anti-semitism” that the Anti-Defamation League likes to talk about. But the old kind, masquerading as anti-Zionism but manifesting itself as support or, at least, sympathy for every group or individual hostile to Jews: from Pat Buchanan to Hizbullah.

The only difference between this anti-semitism and the old-fashioned kind is that it has no impact. If you don’t visit Mondoweiss or other websites like it, you won’t know it exists. It threatens no one. It is just ugly. But ugly and irrelevant.


http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2014/03/16/is-anti-semitism-dead/

[azurnoir]

11. First reply to Rosenberg's essay from Rabbi Michael Lerner

March 16, 2014 at 10:48 am

I’ve always been thrilled to have MJ Rosenberg as one of our bloggers. But I have to strongly object to calling Mondoweiss Anti-Semitic. I do believe that their constant criticism of Israel is unfair, one-sided, and shows none of the compassion that we progressives ought to be showing to those with whom we disagree. I do often disagree with articles that are published on that site (but then again, I often disagree with articles published on this Tikkun Daily blog, and I’m the editor (who believes in free speech). Yet I think it is a disservice to the term ‘anti-Semitism” to use it as equivalent to having unfair and excessive criticism of Israel. The term means “hating Jews and wishing them ill,” and I don’t believe that the editors at Mondoweiss fit that description. Nor do I think it appropriate for our Tikkun Daily blog to be a place where we throw that term around except where it applies–to groups that do in fact hate Jews and wish Jews ill. There are such groups, and they have been popping up all over Europe once again and most recently in the Ukraine. So I want to apologize to Mondoweiss for this article and urge all who use this site to avoid those kinds of accusations unless they are backed up with detailed specific examples that prove the charge beyond a reasonable doubt. –Rabbi Michael Lerner, Editor, Tikkun

[King_David]

12. So what ?

One of the few times MJ Rosenberg has been 100% spot on.....

Mondoweiss is bigoted , insignificant trash , and if not for DU and now 2 posters would have a tiny readership.

[azurnoir]

13. Rabbi Lerner seems to disagree and 2 posters are you making lists?

I pointed out the reply to Rosenberg's article from the editor of the publication is was written for

[King_David]

14. more

Mondofront: Removing All Doubt


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/10/974737/-Mondofront-Removing-All-Doubt


Mondofront: Now with Gilad Atzmon

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/29/988922/-Mondofront-Now-with-Gilad-Atzmon

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. Have you found a canary in training, azurnoir?

[King_David]

15. Here is another reply :

March 21, 2014 at 4:26 am
What do you call someone who writes this kind of stuff on his blog:

“Walk around Harvard and the Kennedy School, what are the names on
the buildings? Taubman, Rubenstein, Belfer, Weiner. Where do you think
the money is coming from in academia?”
http://mondoweiss.net/2008/05/goyishe-grows-m.html

Or who bemoans the fact that Jane Harman has not been identified as a Jew:
“Jane Harman’s Jewish. There, I just said it.”
http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/press-cant-say-it-but-a-blogger-can-jane-harmans-jewish.html

Or who says that “in order for Obama to get the Jewish funding he had in the last election he has to make a trip to Israel.”
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/05/obamas-to-do-list-free-pollard-in-may-so-he-can-travel-safely-to-israel-in-june.html

Or who kvetches about the Jewish control of the Clinton campaign with a piece titled “Hillary’s Costly Braintrust, the New Jewish Establishment”
http://mondoweiss.net/2008/02/hillarys-costly.html

Or who writes a piece called “Liberals like to deceive themselves about Jewish power.”
http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/liberals-like-to-deceive-themselves-about-jewish-power.html

Or who promotes the antisemitite Gilad Atzman?
http://mondoweiss.net/2011/06/i-found-my-identity-down-on-highway-61.html

It’s not just the comments that are the problem at Mondoweiss.

[azurnoir]

16. again Rabbi Lerners reply do you think you know more than this Rabbi?

March 16, 2014 at 10:48 am
I’ve always been thrilled to have MJ Rosenberg as one of our bloggers. But I have to strongly object to calling Mondoweiss Anti-Semitic. I do believe that their constant criticism of Israel is unfair, one-sided, and shows none of the compassion that we progressives ought to be showing to those with whom we disagree. I do often disagree with articles that are published on that site (but then again, I often disagree with articles published on this Tikkun Daily blog, and I’m the editor (who believes in free speech). Yet I think it is a disservice to the term ‘anti-Semitism” to use it as equivalent to having unfair and excessive criticism of Israel. The term means “hating Jews and wishing them ill,” and I don’t believe that the editors at Mondoweiss fit that description. Nor do I think it appropriate for our Tikkun Daily blog to be a place where we throw that term around except where it applies–to groups that do in fact hate Jews and wish Jews ill. There are such groups, and they have been popping up all over Europe once again and most recently in the Ukraine. So I want to apologize to Mondoweiss for this article and urge all who use this site to avoid those kinds of accusations unless they are backed up with detailed specific examples that prove the charge beyond a reasonable doubt. –Rabbi Michael Lerner, Editor, Tikkun

http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2014/03/16/is-anti-semitism-dead/

but I will compliment you on those lists compiled in just moments almost as though they were precompiled but I am sure that's not the case

[King_David]

17. Huh ?

WTF ??



You know what I do and do not know?

[azurnoir]

18. I asked you a question I did not state what you know or don't

[shira]

4. What do you expect from Mondoweiss - a paleocon rag funded by Ron Unz. n/t

[azurnoir]

8. I know you like to throw around political buzz words but perhaps you know what they mean first

as in 'paleocon' which hardly fits Mondoweiss

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government and civil society, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

[shira]

19. Ron Unz, Justin Raimondo, Pat Buchanan....all affiliated w/ Phil Weiss. n/t

[azurnoir]

20. Paleocon still does not fit Phil Weiss

play guilt by extremely loose association all you wish

[shira]

21. Unz is one of Mondoweiss' biggest funders. n/t

[azurnoir]

22. If Pat Buchanan is an associate Weiss he's also an associate of Rachel Maddow

as they both worked for MSNBC at the same time as to UNZ back it up with something , remember one of Weisses BIGGEST contributors

[shira]

26. Weiss wrote for the AmCon under Buchanan, Scott McConnell. As for Unz...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=91312

You know who Justin Raimondo is? Phil Weiss does. Ergo, MONDO-WEISS.

[King_David]

27. Extremist Right wing stuff

[azurnoir]

28. and yet more guilt by association but link us up to proof that Justin Raimondo

is the co-founder of mondoweiss doesn't get mentioned here nor is he on staff

http://mondoweiss.net/about-mondoweiss

[Little Tich]

23. It seems as if nobody has bothered to post about the OP. I'll give it a try...

I think it's a little bit unseemly that a potential Democratic Presidential Candidate cozies up to a vile right-wing racist like Netanyahu. I know that she wants to get the candidacy, but kissing ass is what Republicans do.