Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumRight-wing campaign portrays human rights leaders as foreign agents
One minute and nine seconds. Thats the length of the inciting video published this morning by right-wing activist Ronen Shoval. In less than a minute-and-a-half, Shoval manages to sum up all the reasons why an Israeli court deemed it okay to call Im Tirzu an organization he founded a fascist group.
The video is part of a campaign by the group against foreign governments planting activists and groups belonging to Israeli civil society. It begins with a clip of a Palestinian man moving his knife toward the camera, as if he is trying to stab the viewer himself, while horror film music plays in the background. The video then goes on to accuse four Israelis who work for human rights organizations Breaking the Silences Avner Gvaryahu, Hamokeds Sigi Ben Ari, Ishai Menuchin of the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel, and BTselems Hagai El-Ad of being planted.
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Things I learned from the Weimar Republic
The enemy is no longer comprised of various anti-Israel groups. The enemy now has a name, his face is out in the open; these are the people fighting against us from within. These four are now connected to the knife-wielding Palestinian. They are the knife stabbing us in the back.
After watching Shovals video I immediately looked up the Hebrew Wikipedia entry for what was known as the stab-in-the-back myth. According to the myth, Germanys loss in World War I came as a result of treasonous activities by Jews, Marxists, freemasons, and others who stabbed the nation in the back. I also learned that most of the German people accepted the myth as fact, and that placing the blame on Jews and Marxists for the German defeat became commonplace. Moreover, the myth was convenient in that it served certain psychological aspects of German society, at a time when powerful forces left over from the era of German Emperor Wilhelm II still strived for territorial expansion and had militaristic ambitions. Far-right völkisch parties made use of the myth, and after the Nazis came to power in 1933, the myth won official government support and became part of Germanys history curriculum.
Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. Sad that it will be Israel.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And how does it follow from this article about far right-wingers?
shira
(30,109 posts)It doesn't get more foul comparing Jews to Nazis.
Israeli
(4,139 posts)see :
Father of Suspect in West Bank Arson Killings Calls President Rivlin 'Führer'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134120921
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I thought you would take a little while off from that after your last embarrassment.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=121799
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I was responding to the comment you made.
If you don't want people responding to your comments, why make them?
Edit to add:
Here's the comment I mean: "Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. Sad that it will be Israel."
You included that remark after the article in your OP. Why did you write that? What does it mean?
Seems odd that you would complain about a response to a comment that you chose to include.
If you only want people to respond to the article, then don't add your commentary.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or explain what prompted you to include it?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Right wing extremist comments are sure to be hidden - if it were explained.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)These most certainly are proxies of foreign governments and therefore tools of neo-colonialism. There is nothing democratic about allowing white-privilege Europe to push it's foreign policy objectives in Israel, which are diametrically opposed to the objectives of the Israeli democratic majority, through the proxy agents identified by Shovel.
Are you or are you not against colonialism, Orly? If you are all for powerful and traditionally internationally oppressive countries interfering in the domestic affairs of weaker states, then just be as explicit about this as possible.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)Have you ever met an internet troll? A troll is a special class of sociopath.
These nasty individuals are the sadistic ne'er-do-wells of the digital realm, the misanthropic misfits of information age. Unlike a normal person, when a troll enters an online discussion, he is not seeking truth or clarification. He usually doesn't even know how to debate in an intelligent manner. All he wants to do is inflict pain, ridicule, and humiliation on a targeted person.....
http://www.peorian.com/technology/technology-news/trolls-cyberbullies/1079-how-to-identify-and-defeat-an-internet-troll
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)BDS.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Even those considering themselves more Palestinian than real Palestinians , or like in the case of the ISM those that want to be the leaders of the Palestinian nation from America.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)I guess that you were referring to yourself in the third person...(?) but I guess if you want to come out in support of Palestinians then who am I to argue with you?
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I took a look at the clip, and it's totally "Der Stürmer" style. I'm very wary of Nazi comparisons in general, but I don't know of any other comparison that would work without being too convoluted.
Naming supposed traitors and blaming them for terrorism is pure incitement. The idea of the stab in the back traitor was an old Nazi meme, which surely those who made the clip are fully aware of, and it's most probably their inspiration. This is one of the most inciteful clips I've seen from the "pro-Israel" side for a long time.