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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:41 PM May 2016

Mondoweiss: Front-page play for Israel battle shows that Israel has lost the Democratic Party base

Source: Mondoweiss, by Philip Weiss

The big news today is that the split inside the Democratic Party over Israel is at last front-page news in the New York Times. The schmattes we’ve been trying to sell on this site for the last six or seven years are suddenly in fashion. The battle we’ve predicted inside the Democratic Party in 2016 is coming to pass. Write Jason Horowitz and Maggie Haberman:

A bitter divide over the Middle East could threaten Democratic Party unity as representatives of Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed to upend what they see as the party’s lopsided support of Israel.

The other big news is that the Times exposed its bias, and tried to scare people about those Israel-despising radicals in the Democratic Party, by putting the word “occupation” in quotations, and then got busted for it by Adam Johnson and Annie Robbins and Max Blumenthal among others on Twitter — and the Times then took the quotation marks off “occupation” without any explanation.

James North reports that his paper-and-ink edition of the story includes those quotation marks — and he’s looking forward to the Times explaining the correction, per its own policy. It is a fact that Israel maintains an occupation, he says. Putting it in scare quotes makes it into an allegation. It’s like putting “pogroms” into quotation marks. When are we going to see a correction and explanation?

Read more: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/05/israel-battle-democratic/

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Mondoweiss: Front-page play for Israel battle shows that Israel has lost the Democratic Party base (Original Post) Little Tich May 2016 OP
More crap from Mondoweiss King_David May 2016 #1
Actually, I think it was justified to post this particular article from Mondoweiss: Little Tich May 2016 #2
Weiss just reprints part of a NY Times article and a Hillary speech and adds snide comments oberliner May 2016 #3
I'd like to think of the MW article as a sort of mirror image of the NYT article, Little Tich May 2016 #6
The problem is Mondoweiss & their like minded ilk are NOT pro-Palestinian.... shira May 2016 #4
this anti-israel focus is really counterproductive 6chars May 2016 #9
Delusional leftynyc May 2016 #5
Hillary who? Little Tich May 2016 #7
In fantsyland world leftynyc May 2016 #8

King_David

(14,851 posts)
1. More crap from Mondoweiss
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:38 AM
May 2016

A bigoted vanity site , we tend not to use crap sites here on DU and I'm not sure anybody should be tolerating Jew hating Antisemitic pro Trump cheerleaders for Anne Coulter here in our group.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
2. Actually, I think it was justified to post this particular article from Mondoweiss:
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:11 AM
May 2016

1. It reflects the opinions of some Democrats who support the Palestinians.

2. It indicates that equal treatment for Palestinians will be an issue to be included in the Democratic party platform.

3. It shows that Clinton is very partisan on the Israel issue.

3. It indicates that the Israel dog-whistle isn't working like it used to.

Frankly, I don't see the problem with posting from a pro-Palestinian Democratic perspective. I think you should be more worried about OPs from neocon think-tanks like The Gatestone Institute.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Weiss just reprints part of a NY Times article and a Hillary speech and adds snide comments
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:33 AM
May 2016

Is it even legal to repost so many paragraphs of someone else's writing that way?

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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
6. I'd like to think of the MW article as a sort of mirror image of the NYT article,
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

whereas the NYT is tiptoeing around the subject not to offend anyone who is a 100% Israel supporter, MW doesn't pull any punches.

I don't share the sense of optimism in the MW article, for me it's enough if the Palestinians are recognized as human beings with equal rights. However, the appointments to the party platform committee do seem to point towards a shift of some kind.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
4. The problem is Mondoweiss & their like minded ilk are NOT pro-Palestinian....
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:19 AM
May 2016

They're anti-Israel & whether they admit it or not antisemitic in their outlook.

They're pro-Hamas (sharing Hamas' goals) & not the least interested in the welfare of the average Palestinian. In their regressive left Oppression Olympics games, the only Palestinian lives that ever matter are those whose suffering can be blamed on Israel. Otherwise, Palestinian lives don't matter to them. Jewish lives never matter - EVER.

Find a real pro-Palestinian site dedicated to genuine peace and THEN you'll have something serious to talk about & be proud of.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
9. this anti-israel focus is really counterproductive
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

it is like Borat's song. "In my country there is a problem" as if the cause of all problems is that the Zionist (in this case) is bad and the solution to the problem, whatever it is, is to throw the Zionist (or whomever) down the well.

the pro-palestinian people think nothing of another generation or two or three of palestinians living without a functioning society or economy or state, as long as Jews are not allowed to live in whatever one considers Palestine.

a genuine peace would benefit the palestinians so much, it is obvious. but a genuine peace requires them to embrace it, which no one has requested of them.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
5. Delusional
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:46 AM
May 2016

The Democratic party BASE is giving Hillary the nomination to the Presidency. The candidate that has promised to repair relations with Israel but still believes in a 2 state solution. I know you like to think the teeny minority of Democrats that feel as you do are going to change the party and the platform but if I were you, I'd get ready for disappointment. Every single anti-Israel plank west and zogby try and force into the platform is going to get rejected. Every single one of them. And all Democratically - they're simply going to be outnumbered. And really? mondoweiss? What a piece of crap website.

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