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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:11 PM Dec 2016

UK disappointed Netanyahu scotched planned meet with May

Reminder that the problem is not Obama, it's the Israelis.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/uk-disappointed-netanyahu-canceled-planned-meeting-with-may/

The UK’s deputy ambassador to Israel expressed “disappointment” Monday over reports that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has canceled a planned meeting with his British counterpart Theresa May in protest of London’s support for a UN Security Council resolution that condemned West Bank settlement building.

Netanyahu’s office had denied reports Sunday night that he had nixed a meeting with May next month at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, saying that no meeting had been set. But the deputy head of mission at the British Embassy in Tel Aviv, Tony Kay, told The Times of Israel there had been plans for a sit-down, though Jerusalem had not told London it planned to cancel the meeting.

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“The UK remains and always will be a dear and close friend of Israel” and rejects boycott or “any efforts to delegitimize or undermine” it, he said. Echoing the remarks of the UK’s ambassador to the UN, Matthew Rycroft, made Friday at the Security Council, Kay reiterated his government’s “stalwart commitment to Israel’s security and its existence as the Jewish homeland.”

At the same time, Britain considers Israeli settlements outside the 1967 lines — including in Jerusalem’s Old City — illegal and an obstacle to peace. Furthermore, he added, Resolution 2334 did not only condemn the settlements, but also called for a stop of violence and incitement.

“We worked hard for a balanced text and we felt that the text was sufficiently balanced to warrant the UK voting in favor,” Kay said.
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UK disappointed Netanyahu scotched planned meet with May (Original Post) geek tragedy Dec 2016 OP
Reminder, it is Netanyahu' problem still_one Dec 2016 #1
He's not a one-off fluke. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #2
Netanyahu will has just turned the world against Israel, and trump has pretty much turned the world still_one Dec 2016 #3
Two peas in a pod nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #5
Netanyahu Is Dragging Israel Into the Abyss still_one Dec 2016 #4
Trump and Bibi are like the Thelma and Louise of geek tragedy Dec 2016 #6
Never saw the movie, but I definitely agree with your characterization about both being evil still_one Dec 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Little Tich Dec 2016 #8
the problem is the Palestinian leadership Mosby Dec 2016 #9
how is Abbas to blame for settlement expansion? nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #10
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. He's not a one-off fluke.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:33 PM
Dec 2016

Most dominant figure in Israeli politics since, and as of 2019, including Ben- Gurion. He's to today's Israel what Reagan was to the USA in 1984.

He won re-election on the strength of anti-Arab incitement and vowing to prevent a Palestinian state.

US pressure has been a guard rail for the Israelis in how they address the Palestinian situation. That guard rail is now gone and replaced by a Kahanist cheerleader in the White House.

still_one

(92,110 posts)
3. Netanyahu will has just turned the world against Israel, and trump has pretty much turned the world
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:37 PM
Dec 2016

against the U.S.

still_one

(92,110 posts)
4. Netanyahu Is Dragging Israel Into the Abyss
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:44 PM
Dec 2016

"With his destructive reaction to the UN vote, Netanyahu is shutting down channels for dialogue with countries that Israel needs now and in the future | Editorial

As Israel’s diplomatic defeat at the UN Security Council becomes clearer, it’s equally clear why Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stubbornly insists on being foreign minister as well. Netanyahu doesn’t want anyone interfering as he destroys diplomatic relations with the countries, some friendly to Israel, that “dared” to vote for the resolution declaring the settlements illegal. The burial of the Foreign Ministry and the abandonment of diplomacy turns out to be part of a broad and dangerous plan to disengage from international law and stop playing by its rules.

As part of this punishment, he sent his close associate, Israeli Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer, to television studios to hint that he has proof that the Obama administration was behind the advancement of the UN resolution. “We have clear evidence [and] we will present this evidence to the new administration,” Dermer threatened. “If they want to share it with the American people they are welcome to do it.”


This destruction campaign has gone global. Netanyahu ordered the Foreign Ministry to almost totally halt work relations with 12 of the countries that voted for the resolution. As part of these “sanctions,” ministers will reduce travel to these countries to a minimum and Netanyahu will not receive their foreign ministers. He has already turned down meetings with his British and Chinese counterparts.

Netanyahu is shutting down channels for dialogue with countries that Israel needs now and in the future. Because of his famous paranoia regarding diplomatic affairs, he fears that other moves are afoot in the final weeks of U.S. President Barack Obama’s term. He’s particularly spooked by a meeting of foreign ministers scheduled for January 15 in Paris where, according to a senior official in Jerusalem, the United States and France may advance some other diplomatic move as part of the French peace initiative.

This catastrophe is taking place while there is no full-time foreign minister to explain to Netanyahu the enormous damage he’s doing, and while to his left stands a defense minister who calls the Paris peace conference “a modern-day Dreyfus trial against the entire Jewish people” and calls on French Jews to move to Israel. To his right stands an education minister who’s urging him to annex Area C of the West Bank.


Netanyahu is trying to cover up his defeat with arrogant and hollow rhetoric and by lighting Hanukkah candles at the Western Wall. It’s one thing that he can’t look reality in the eye and refuses to understand that an agreement with the Palestinian is a paramount Israeli interest. What’s worse is that the prime minister is dragging his country into the abyss.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/1.761523

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Mosby

(16,295 posts)
9. the problem is the Palestinian leadership
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:30 PM
Dec 2016

Who refuse to negotiate.

At any time they could have called out Bibi with a proposal about borders for example, but they have even less interest deciding borders that Bibi.

Frankly they deserve each other, the only thing that piece of shit Abbas cares about is protecting his legacy, whatever the fuck that is, and ensuring that his two sons keep making billions through graft.

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