Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumPalestinians Lobby For Convincing Win In U.N. Vote
By Noah Browning and Ali Sawafta
RAMALLAH, West Bank | Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:15am EDT
(Reuters) - Palestinians have launched a diplomatic blitz aimed at garnering a strong majority for a vote granting the non-member statehood at the United Nations slated for next month, officials said on Tuesday.
Despite heading for a sure victory in the U.N General Assembly, mostly consisting of post-colonial states historically sympathetic to the Palestinians, West Bank diplomats are courting European countries to further burnish their campaign.
"From the E.U. we will have a minimum of 12 votes and maybe up to 15, as some are not yet decided," Wasel Abu Yousef, a member of the Palestine Liberation Organization, told Reuters. There are 27 nations within the European Union.
Palestinian officials say that they can count on around 115 'yes' votes, mostly from Arab, African, Latin American, and Asian states, and expect around 22 no-votes, led by the United States, and 56 abstentions in the 193-member organization.
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)"We support a Palestinian state, oh wait."
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)a completely different animal as has become all too obvious
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as a 1994 US law requites we cut funding to the UN if the UNGA votes in favor of this and IMO they will
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)the US will be forced by law to cut all UN payments.
While I tend to denigrate the UN bureaucracies, this is not the right way to reform them
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)to death from disease and starvation to apparently protect Israeli interests? The law was passed in 1994 around the time of the Oslo accords while we had a Republican controlled House in an election year
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but then again the vote won't be till the middle to end of November
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But then, since when have American Israel Supporters ever really given a damn, I guess. It's about hating Arabs, after all, not helping Israel.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)I have not been tracking that so if anyone wants to chime in with that, please do.
The UNGA knows well what the US government will have to do. The president has been unable to reverse the UNESCO funding cuts, and the director-general of UNESCO was in the media again complaining about it again just recently.
To assert that "US may well condemn women and children around the globe to death from disease and starvation to apparently protect Israeli interests?" is pure hyperbole.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)of Iranian nuclear facilities.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)US law is clear and the president will not be able to get it changed unless his party controls both houses. Even then, he may not get it.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)I'm surprised that a DOD/CIA/FBI expert professor with your own stash of Soviet man-portable missiles such as yourself wasn't aware of the constitutional concerns that the Department of Justice has in relation to the relevant law:-
http://www.justice.gov/ola/views-letters/112/102111-ltr-re-hr-2829-UN-transparency-accountability-reform-act-2011.pdf
The DOJ's position is that the law, including the relevant Section 402, is potentially unconstitutional, in that it seeks to bind the hand of the President with respect to foreign policy in a way that is ultra vires the Congress.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)don't want to give any ideas now, the vote won't be happening for at least 2 weeks
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)and SecState has not even taken a seriously contrary position.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)You don't want to mess with them.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)in fact, a lot of them complain that they can't express any opinion other than what the Palestinian lobby advocates for them.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's pretty damn good.
We are talking about power on an international scale here, not just within one country.
shaayecanaan
(6,068 posts)they folded in the face of the Palestinian diplomatic onslaught. I myself spent the week hiding under my desk, and I'm not even a diplomat.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I expect the Palestinian lobby's efforts will bear fruit in the end with respect to a forthcoming UN resolution in the GA and possibly beyond.