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Related: About this forumHamas gunmen execute six ‘Israeli spies’ as Netanyahu hints at cease-fire
Witnesses say masked gunmen have publicly killed six suspected collaborators with Israel at a busy Gaza City intersection.
The Hamas military wing claimed responsibility.
Witnesses said the six men were pulled out of a van Tuesday, forced to lie face down on the street and then shot dead.
Five bodies lay in a pile as a mob stomped and spit on them. A sixth body was tied to a motorcycle and dragged through the streets as people screamed, Spy! Spy!
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/20/hamas-gunmen-execute-six-israeli-spies-on-busy-gaza-street-corner/
Loudly
(2,436 posts)The mob in the street are assholes too, of course.
Mosby
(19,491 posts)Murdering people in the streets, shooting missles at the "holy city of Jerusalem".
What happens if a rocket hits a religious site like al aksa?
Crazy.
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... I guarantee you Hamas would call it an "Israeli False Flag" -- and I know of many in here would would believe it unquestioningly.
Historic NY
(40,041 posts)nothing would please them more than Israel rolling in full force.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Very revealing.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)cause here you are saying that the people of Gaza have control over Hamas
oberliner
The people of Gaza have complete say in what Hamas is doing and have every way to stop it
The people of Gaza voted for Hamas.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=22715
I'll happily discuss this with you here or on the thread where you made the statement
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The people in Israel have responsibility for what their government does, and the people in Gaza have responsibility for what their government does.
Did you know that Hamas was democratically elected?
King_David
(14,851 posts)That Israel is responsible for ?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)Make a statement, toss a question mark at the end, and go "mwuh I'm just askin', is all!"
Okay then. I'm still curious where Dave gets this notion, though.
hack89
(39,181 posts)are willing to finger them to the Israelis.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)You might call them martyrs.
Igel
(37,535 posts)Sometimes the "guilty" are simply from families with opposing business ventures or political opponents, or even just from tribes that those fingering them have a grudge against.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Once Hamas labels you a "collaborator" you are pretty much screwed.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)More likely they're just scapegoats, or the victims of some other agenda, being labeled as "collaborators" for PR purposes within Gaza.
hack89
(39,181 posts)it is pretty clear that Israel has a wide web of spies, paid informants and collaborators in Gaza as evidenced by the very accurate and timely information they seemed to be getting on Hamas leaders and facilities.
Hamas has made many enemies in Gaza - in a clan based society where protecting honor is so important, I suspect we are seeing many personal retributions being play out.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But then, we'll probably never know
Kind of the point, that.
hack89
(39,181 posts)then you have to think it is more than drones.
Lars77
(3,032 posts)He needs Hamas as a boogeyman. The only problem is, how will he play it if the seacefire goes into effect? He will be dissapointing many of his most bloodthirsty, racist supporters. The man has an election to win, after all.
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cali
(114,904 posts)just yikes.
Lars77
(3,032 posts)I genuinely thought it was self-evident and my judgement was not required.
What is controversial about what i said?
Kurska
(5,739 posts)In a thread about Hamas executing their own civilians.
Maybe you should try actually talking about the content of the OP instead of looking for every opportunity to denounce the other side.
Lars77
(3,032 posts)Not sure why these things should be kept separate..
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Must've missed that one.
Lars77
(3,032 posts)I see these posts in the larger context of other posts and the conflict in general. I think you actually understand that too, but for some reason it's just easier to make snarky comments.
DU makes me lose faith in humanity sometimes.