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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:21 PM Nov 2012

Hamas gunmen execute six ‘Israeli spies’ as Netanyahu hints at cease-fire

Witnesses say masked gunmen have publicly killed six suspected collaborators with Israel at a busy Gaza City intersection.

The Hamas military wing claimed responsibility.

Witnesses said the six men were pulled out of a van Tuesday, forced to lie face down on the street and then shot dead.

Five bodies lay in a pile as a mob stomped and spit on them. A sixth body was tied to a motorcycle and dragged through the streets as people screamed, “Spy! Spy!”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/20/hamas-gunmen-execute-six-israeli-spies-on-busy-gaza-street-corner/

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Hamas gunmen execute six ‘Israeli spies’ as Netanyahu hints at cease-fire (Original Post) oberliner Nov 2012 OP
. patrice Nov 2012 #1
Wow. What a bunch of assholes Hamas is. Loudly Nov 2012 #2
hamas is getting desperate Mosby Nov 2012 #3
If a Hamas rocket were to hit Al-Aqsa ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #31
Killing their own.. Historic NY Nov 2012 #4
I guess they don't mind "extrajudicial killing" when they are doing the killing oberliner Nov 2012 #5
so the people of Gaza control this? is that what your saying? azurnoir Nov 2012 #27
Of course they do oberliner Nov 2012 #30
They add these murders to civilian count King_David Nov 2012 #6
Second time you've claimed this. Do you have a source? Scootaloo Nov 2012 #10
looks to me like he is asking a question. nt Mosby Nov 2012 #12
Ah yes. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #14
It must unnerve Hamas to realize how many of their own people hack89 Nov 2012 #7
Risking their lives in the process oberliner Nov 2012 #8
That assumes that the dead are guilty as charged. Igel Nov 2012 #9
Right - who knows oberliner Nov 2012 #24
As Igel says, the odds of these people "collaborating" are pretty slim Scootaloo Nov 2012 #11
I wasn't referring to these poor unfortunates specifically hack89 Nov 2012 #15
I think Israel's spy drones might have a bigger impact than informants Scootaloo Nov 2012 #16
When they know who is in specific cars or buildings hack89 Nov 2012 #18
I bet Netanyahu loves this Lars77 Nov 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author azurnoir Nov 2012 #17
that's your reaction to this. yikes. cali Nov 2012 #19
It's pretty obvious that it's disgusting behaviour. Lars77 Nov 2012 #20
We thank you for your brave and gutsty denoucation of Netanyahu Kurska Nov 2012 #21
I can chew gum and walk at the same time. Lars77 Nov 2012 #22
Where's the post where you chewed the gum? oberliner Nov 2012 #23
This is really stupid Lars77 Nov 2012 #28
If you don't get it, you don't get it, dear. cali Nov 2012 #26
Yeah who am i to argue with someone who's pushing 76.000 posts.. Lars77 Nov 2012 #29
Not nearly as much as you, it seems. Fozzledick Nov 2012 #25
 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
2. Wow. What a bunch of assholes Hamas is.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:33 PM
Nov 2012

The mob in the street are assholes too, of course.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
3. hamas is getting desperate
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:36 PM
Nov 2012

Murdering people in the streets, shooting missles at the "holy city of Jerusalem".

What happens if a rocket hits a religious site like al aksa?

Crazy.

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
31. If a Hamas rocket were to hit Al-Aqsa ...
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:46 PM
Nov 2012

... I guarantee you Hamas would call it an "Israeli False Flag" -- and I know of many in here would would believe it unquestioningly.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. I guess they don't mind "extrajudicial killing" when they are doing the killing
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:55 PM
Nov 2012

Very revealing.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
27. so the people of Gaza control this? is that what your saying?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:26 PM
Nov 2012

cause here you are saying that the people of Gaza have control over Hamas

oberliner

The people of Gaza have complete say in what Hamas is doing and have every way to stop it

The people of Gaza voted for Hamas.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=22715

I'll happily discuss this with you here or on the thread where you made the statement

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. Of course they do
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:33 PM
Nov 2012

The people in Israel have responsibility for what their government does, and the people in Gaza have responsibility for what their government does.

Did you know that Hamas was democratically elected?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. Ah yes.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Nov 2012

Make a statement, toss a question mark at the end, and go "mwuh I'm just askin', is all!"

Okay then. I'm still curious where Dave gets this notion, though.

hack89

(39,181 posts)
7. It must unnerve Hamas to realize how many of their own people
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 01:16 PM
Nov 2012

are willing to finger them to the Israelis.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
9. That assumes that the dead are guilty as charged.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

Sometimes the "guilty" are simply from families with opposing business ventures or political opponents, or even just from tribes that those fingering them have a grudge against.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Right - who knows
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:50 PM
Nov 2012

Once Hamas labels you a "collaborator" you are pretty much screwed.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
11. As Igel says, the odds of these people "collaborating" are pretty slim
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:35 PM
Nov 2012

More likely they're just scapegoats, or the victims of some other agenda, being labeled as "collaborators" for PR purposes within Gaza.

hack89

(39,181 posts)
15. I wasn't referring to these poor unfortunates specifically
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
Nov 2012

it is pretty clear that Israel has a wide web of spies, paid informants and collaborators in Gaza as evidenced by the very accurate and timely information they seemed to be getting on Hamas leaders and facilities.

Hamas has made many enemies in Gaza - in a clan based society where protecting honor is so important, I suspect we are seeing many personal retributions being play out.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
16. I think Israel's spy drones might have a bigger impact than informants
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:05 PM
Nov 2012

But then, we'll probably never know Kind of the point, that.

hack89

(39,181 posts)
18. When they know who is in specific cars or buildings
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

then you have to think it is more than drones.

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
13. I bet Netanyahu loves this
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 02:47 PM
Nov 2012

He needs Hamas as a boogeyman. The only problem is, how will he play it if the seacefire goes into effect? He will be dissapointing many of his most bloodthirsty, racist supporters. The man has an election to win, after all.

Response to Lars77 (Reply #13)

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
20. It's pretty obvious that it's disgusting behaviour.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:38 PM
Nov 2012

I genuinely thought it was self-evident and my judgement was not required.

What is controversial about what i said?

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
21. We thank you for your brave and gutsty denoucation of Netanyahu
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:26 PM
Nov 2012

In a thread about Hamas executing their own civilians.



Maybe you should try actually talking about the content of the OP instead of looking for every opportunity to denounce the other side.

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
22. I can chew gum and walk at the same time.
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 05:41 PM
Nov 2012

Not sure why these things should be kept separate..

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
28. This is really stupid
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 08:17 PM
Nov 2012

I see these posts in the larger context of other posts and the conflict in general. I think you actually understand that too, but for some reason it's just easier to make snarky comments.


DU makes me lose faith in humanity sometimes.

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