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Related: About this forumIsraeli Soldiers Beat Reuters Photographers;Punch Journalists and Set Off Tear Gas in Hebron
HEBRON, WEST BANK Israeli soldiers punched two Reuters cameramen and forced them to strip in the street, before letting off a tear gas canister in front of them, leaving one of them needing hospital treatment.
Israels military said on Thursday it took the allegations seriously, but offered no explanation for the assault that occurred on Wednesday evening in the heart of Hebron.
The regional brigade commander was ordered to open an investigation, Israeli Defense Forces spokeswoman Avital Leibovich said in an email. No further information will be provided until the investigation is complete.
Yousri Al Jamal and Maamoun Wazwaz said a foot patrol stopped them as they were driving to a nearby checkpoint where a Palestinian teenager had just been shot dead by an Israeli border guard.
Their car was clearly marked TV and they were both wearing blue flak jackets with Press emblazoned on the front.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/167681/israeli-soldiers-beat-reuters-photographers/#ixzz2Ezup8vdy
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,215 posts)Oh well, I'll wait for the usual crowd to come defend the indefensible.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)however there have been complaints that camera's interfere with IDF's actions vis a vis Palestinians in the West Bank
Tempest
(14,591 posts)Israel doesn't want their war crimes broadcasted.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but related
http://972mag.com/idf-soldier-cameras-are-our-kryptonite/61849/
and posted as a thread here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113425441
Tempest
(14,591 posts)Because every day it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between the two.
King_David
(14,851 posts)kayecy
(1,417 posts)Of course you were replying to a particular poster but.............to then completely ignore the contents of the lead article in this case is strange....Have you no comment at all to make on the article?.........Does the alleged IDF action seem reasonable to you?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Don't bother King D to actually have to come out of his cocoon and see both sides of reality. His cocoon is warm and comfy.
Tempest
(14,591 posts)Do you know who is responsible for the first organized terrorist attack in the Middle East?
It was the bombing of a hotel, if that helps.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or perhaps that was just your run of the mill anti-Jewish violence, which was in vogue in various parts of the world in those days.
kayecy
(1,417 posts)A commission of enquiry led by Sir Walter Shaw took public evidence for several weeks. The main conclusions of the Commission were as follows:
- The outbreak in Jerusalem on the 23rd of August was from the beginning an attack by Arabs on Jews for which no excuse in the form of earlier murders by Jews has been established.
- The outbreak was not premeditated.
- [In his activities connected to the dispute over the Holy Places] the Mufti was influenced by the twofold desire to confront the Jews and to mobilize Moslem opinion on the issue of the Wailing Wall. He had no intention of utilizing this religious campaign as the means of inciting to disorder
- ...in the matter of innovations of practice [at the Wailing Wall] little blame can be attached to the Mufti in which some Jewish religious authorities also would not have to share. ...no connection has been established between the Mufti and the work of those who either are known or are thought to have engaged in agitation or incitement
The bold is my addition.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Everything you've cited here from the Wikipedia comes from the Shaw Report.
The report also says: No blame can be properly attached to the British government for failing to provide armed reinforcements, withholding of fire, and similar charges.
kayecy
(1,417 posts)So far you have told us nothing that was not in my last post.....My quotes were from the Shaw Report.....The Shaw report was British......So?.......You have a more credible source?
You seem to suggest that the Shaw report was wrong, biased or for some other reason, should be ignored......What eveidence have you for suggesting that?...Why is your source more credible than the Shaw report?
King_David
(14,851 posts)It was a despicable cowardly terrorist attack .
kayecy
(1,417 posts)The Arabs were fighting to stop a flood of Jewish immigrants whose leaders were bent on subjugating the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine and creating a Jewish-majority state.
Would any other 20th century community have accepted such a thing without rioting?
King_David
(14,851 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)1929 Hebron massacre
Was wayy before ..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre
kayecy
(1,417 posts)Was 1929 Hebron organized?.......If so, by whom?
King_David
(14,851 posts)But so what ?
It was a despicable terrorist event ...
kayecy
(1,417 posts)Were the participants in the 1921 Jaffa riots terrorists?.......(47 Jews and 49 Arabs were killed and several hundred wounded).......Who were the 'terrorists' and who the 'victims'........What is your definition of a "terrorist event"?
KimonoGirl
(89 posts)Disgusting behaviour from both sides. This is just the latest example that shits all over the Zionists' pity party and their holier than thou attitudes.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)everytime someone posts something that is uncomplimentary to Israel's actions the ProIsrael set will post something done by the Palestinians in an attempt to distract
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... there are just so many darn good examples from which those pro-Israel guys can chose.
But, I'm glad to see that it's now acceptable to compare Israelis to Nazis on DU after being taboo for so long.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113425722
It allows everyone to see what people really think and doesn't force anti-semites to be circumspect and obtuse when they are writing their posts. Win-win
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)on that too
holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)Useful, absolutely. Frankly I'm tired of people having to pussy-foot around their true feeling when it comes to the people who inhabit Israel and use the "Z-word" when they truly want to say the "J-word". I prefer honesty to circumspection.
And it's useful to know who is who these days.
kayecy
(1,417 posts)Not a word of condemnation of the activities described in the lead article, not even a comment.........Just the introduction of a red herring and a reference to a disgusting article.
Come clean and tell us what you do think of the alleged IDF actions in this article?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)IDF soldiers assault Reuters journalists after mistaking them for human rights workers
Soldiers beat cameramen in Hebron after suspecting that they work for BTselem. Recent years have seen an organized campaign by mainstream Israeli journalists and politicians against human rights organizations in Israel and the West Bank.
Reuters reported that two of its cameramen were abused by IDF soldiers in Hebron on Wednesday night. The men were stripped, beaten, and made to breathe tear gas at a very close range. The soldiers also took one of their cameras, which was later found unharmed nearby. The incident took place shortly after a local teenager was shot to death by a Border Police soldier at a Hebron checkpoint
http://972mag.com/idf-soldiers-assault-reuters-journalists-steal-camera/62001/
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I guess journalists are one rung above human rights workers.
But are human rights workers considered above Palestinians, or below them due to the fact that they're considered traitors for insisting that Palestinians be treated as human beings?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Hopefully they will get the punishment they deserve for their actions.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)made it understandable or something
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Again, I hope they get punished for this.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but it was a B'tselem project that put camera's into the hands of West Bank Palestinians so perhaps there's a grudge or something
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