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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:32 AM Dec 2012

Israeli Soldiers Beat Reuters Photographers;Punch Journalists and Set Off Tear Gas in Hebron

HEBRON, WEST BANK — Israeli soldiers punched two Reuters cameramen and forced them to strip in the street, before letting off a tear gas canister in front of them, leaving one of them needing hospital treatment.

Israel’s military said on Thursday it took the allegations seriously, but offered no explanation for the assault that occurred on Wednesday evening in the heart of Hebron.

“The regional brigade commander was ordered to open an investigation,” Israeli Defense Forces spokeswoman Avital Leibovich said in an email. No further information will be provided until the investigation is complete.

Yousri Al Jamal and Ma’amoun Wazwaz said a foot patrol stopped them as they were driving to a nearby checkpoint where a Palestinian teenager had just been shot dead by an Israeli border guard.

Their car was clearly marked ‘TV’ and they were both wearing blue flak jackets with ‘Press’ emblazoned on the front.


Read more: http://forward.com/articles/167681/israeli-soldiers-beat-reuters-photographers/#ixzz2Ezup8vdy

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Israeli Soldiers Beat Reuters Photographers;Punch Journalists and Set Off Tear Gas in Hebron (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2012 OP
This thread should go well. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #1
I wondered if it was related to the death of Muhammad Ziad Awad Salaymah azurnoir Dec 2012 #2
The "interference" is their presence Tempest Dec 2012 #4
this is first open attack on journalists in the West Bank I've heard of in sometime azurnoir Dec 2012 #7
Can someone tell me who the real terrorists are? Tempest Dec 2012 #3
Ok , you asked? King_David Dec 2012 #5
Of course you were replying to a particular poster but............. kayecy Dec 2012 #12
Shushhhhhhh R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2012 #34
Since you brought that up Tempest Dec 2012 #20
Was the 1929 massacre of the Jews of Hebron not an organized terrorist attack? oberliner Dec 2012 #22
Were the 1929 riots organized?.......If so who organized them?....... kayecy Dec 2012 #23
That's the British version, circa 1930 oberliner Dec 2012 #24
So?...I ask you again.....Who did organize the 1929 riots?....... kayecy Dec 2012 #26
Organized or not.. King_David Dec 2012 #30
But you don't mention what drove the Arabs to rioting....... kayecy Dec 2012 #32
It was a horrible terror attack in the Jews. nt King_David Dec 2012 #33
Not true, and that's relevant to 2012 and what going on now ? King_David Dec 2012 #27
Tempest said......."who is responsible for the first organized terrorist attack" ......... kayecy Dec 2012 #28
Probably was organized King_David Dec 2012 #29
If it was not organized it was not terrorist event....... kayecy Dec 2012 #31
Who can tell anymore? KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #13
It seems we have a 'new' agenda here azurnoir Dec 2012 #6
Luckily ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #8
so you really feel it is acceptable to compare Israeli's to Nazi's I guess we differ azurnoir Dec 2012 #9
Acceptable? No holdencaufield Dec 2012 #10
Here we go again........Introducing another red herring ........ kayecy Dec 2012 #11
I think his opinion is being expressed quite eloquently here azurnoir Dec 2012 #14
I guess just trashing the 'sources' of articles posted wasn't working out so well for them. eom Purveyor Dec 2012 #15
the soldiers thought they were from B'tselem there to report on the death of Muhammad Sala azurnoir Dec 2012 #16
So, how does the IDF's hierarchy of human rights work? geek tragedy Dec 2012 #17
It's not the IDF, it's two jackasses oberliner Dec 2012 #18
ya but what struck me was the way it seemed like thinking they were B'tselem azurnoir Dec 2012 #21
Yes - that was an odd thing to say oberliner Dec 2012 #25
well I don't know if I'd put it in quite that manner azurnoir Dec 2012 #19

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,215 posts)
1. This thread should go well.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:56 AM
Dec 2012

Oh well, I'll wait for the usual crowd to come defend the indefensible.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. I wondered if it was related to the death of Muhammad Ziad Awad Salaymah
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:56 AM
Dec 2012

however there have been complaints that camera's interfere with IDF's actions vis a vis Palestinians in the West Bank

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
4. The "interference" is their presence
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:18 AM
Dec 2012

Israel doesn't want their war crimes broadcasted.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
3. Can someone tell me who the real terrorists are?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:17 AM
Dec 2012

Because every day it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference between the two.

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
12. Of course you were replying to a particular poster but.............
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:22 AM
Dec 2012

Of course you were replying to a particular poster but.............to then completely ignore the contents of the lead article in this case is strange....Have you no comment at all to make on the article?.........Does the alleged IDF action seem reasonable to you?

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
34. Shushhhhhhh
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 11:38 PM
Dec 2012

Don't bother King D to actually have to come out of his cocoon and see both sides of reality. His cocoon is warm and comfy.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
20. Since you brought that up
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:14 AM
Dec 2012

Do you know who is responsible for the first organized terrorist attack in the Middle East?

It was the bombing of a hotel, if that helps.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Was the 1929 massacre of the Jews of Hebron not an organized terrorist attack?
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:12 AM
Dec 2012

Or perhaps that was just your run of the mill anti-Jewish violence, which was in vogue in various parts of the world in those days.

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
23. Were the 1929 riots organized?.......If so who organized them?.......
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:31 AM
Dec 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots

A commission of enquiry led by Sir Walter Shaw took public evidence for several weeks. The main conclusions of the Commission were as follows:

- The outbreak in Jerusalem on the 23rd of August was from the beginning an attack by Arabs on Jews for which no excuse in the form of earlier murders by Jews has been established.

- The outbreak was not premeditated.

- [In his activities connected to the dispute over the Holy Places] the Mufti was influenced by the twofold desire to confront the Jews and to mobilize Moslem opinion on the issue of the Wailing Wall. He had no intention of utilizing this religious campaign as the means of inciting to disorder

- ...in the matter of innovations of practice [at the Wailing Wall] little blame can be attached to the Mufti in which some Jewish religious authorities also would not have to share. ...no connection has been established between the Mufti and the work of those who either are known or are thought to have engaged in agitation or incitement

The bold is my addition.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. That's the British version, circa 1930
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:16 AM
Dec 2012

Everything you've cited here from the Wikipedia comes from the Shaw Report.

The report also says: No blame can be properly attached to the British government for failing to provide armed reinforcements, withholding of fire, and similar charges.

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
26. So?...I ask you again.....Who did organize the 1929 riots?.......
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:25 AM
Dec 2012

So far you have told us nothing that was not in my last post.....My quotes were from the Shaw Report.....The Shaw report was British......So?.......You have a more credible source?

You seem to suggest that the Shaw report was wrong, biased or for some other reason, should be ignored......What eveidence have you for suggesting that?...Why is your source more credible than the Shaw report?

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
32. But you don't mention what drove the Arabs to rioting.......
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:01 AM
Dec 2012

The Arabs were fighting to stop a flood of Jewish immigrants whose leaders were bent on subjugating the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine and creating a Jewish-majority state.

Would any other 20th century community have accepted such a thing without rioting?

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
28. Tempest said......."who is responsible for the first organized terrorist attack" .........
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:31 PM
Dec 2012

Was 1929 Hebron organized?.......If so, by whom?

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
31. If it was not organized it was not terrorist event.......
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:54 AM
Dec 2012

Were the participants in the 1921 Jaffa riots terrorists?.......(47 Jews and 49 Arabs were killed and several hundred wounded).......Who were the 'terrorists' and who the 'victims'........What is your definition of a "terrorist event"?

 

KimonoGirl

(89 posts)
13. Who can tell anymore?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:21 AM
Dec 2012

Disgusting behaviour from both sides. This is just the latest example that shits all over the Zionists' pity party and their holier than thou attitudes.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
6. It seems we have a 'new' agenda here
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:28 AM
Dec 2012

everytime someone posts something that is uncomplimentary to Israel's actions the ProIsrael set will post something done by the Palestinians in an attempt to distract

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
8. Luckily ...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:49 AM
Dec 2012

... there are just so many darn good examples from which those pro-Israel guys can chose.

But, I'm glad to see that it's now acceptable to compare Israelis to Nazis on DU after being taboo for so long.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113425722

It allows everyone to see what people really think and doesn't force anti-semites to be circumspect and obtuse when they are writing their posts. Win-win

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
9. so you really feel it is acceptable to compare Israeli's to Nazi's I guess we differ
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:03 AM
Dec 2012

on that too

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
10. Acceptable? No
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:10 AM
Dec 2012

Useful, absolutely. Frankly I'm tired of people having to pussy-foot around their true feeling when it comes to the people who inhabit Israel and use the "Z-word" when they truly want to say the "J-word". I prefer honesty to circumspection.

And it's useful to know who is who these days.

kayecy

(1,417 posts)
11. Here we go again........Introducing another red herring ........
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:13 AM
Dec 2012

Not a word of condemnation of the activities described in the lead article, not even a comment.........Just the introduction of a red herring and a reference to a disgusting article.

Come clean and tell us what you do think of the alleged IDF actions in this article?

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
15. I guess just trashing the 'sources' of articles posted wasn't working out so well for them. eom
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:42 AM
Dec 2012

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. the soldiers thought they were from B'tselem there to report on the death of Muhammad Sala
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:54 PM
Dec 2012

IDF soldiers assault Reuters journalists after mistaking them for human rights workers

Soldiers beat cameramen in Hebron after suspecting that they work for B’Tselem. Recent years have seen an organized campaign by mainstream Israeli journalists and politicians against human rights organizations in Israel and the West Bank.

Reuters reported that two of its cameramen were abused by IDF soldiers in Hebron on Wednesday night. The men were stripped, beaten, and made to breathe tear gas at a very close range. The soldiers also took one of their cameras, which was later found unharmed nearby. The incident took place shortly after a local teenager was shot to death by a Border Police soldier at a Hebron checkpoint

http://972mag.com/idf-soldiers-assault-reuters-journalists-steal-camera/62001/

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. So, how does the IDF's hierarchy of human rights work?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:11 PM
Dec 2012

I guess journalists are one rung above human rights workers.

But are human rights workers considered above Palestinians, or below them due to the fact that they're considered traitors for insisting that Palestinians be treated as human beings?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. It's not the IDF, it's two jackasses
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:27 PM
Dec 2012

Hopefully they will get the punishment they deserve for their actions.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. ya but what struck me was the way it seemed like thinking they were B'tselem
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 04:08 AM
Dec 2012

made it understandable or something

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
19. well I don't know if I'd put it in quite that manner
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:46 PM
Dec 2012

but it was a B'tselem project that put camera's into the hands of West Bank Palestinians so perhaps there's a grudge or something

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