Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumU.S. Says Palestinian Deal ‘Internal’ Matter
By Agence France-Presse
Monday, February 6, 2012 16:32 EST
WASHINGTON The United States Monday remained on the sidelines over a deal signed between Hamas and Fatah to end a long-running discord between rival Palestinian movements, saying it was an internal affair.
As weve said many times, questions of Palestinian reconciliation are an internal matter for Palestinians, said US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.
The accord signed in Qatar was welcomed by officials from both Palestinian movements, but Israel warned Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas to choose between reconciliation with Hamas and making peace with the Jewish state.
Nuland highlighted that Hamas, an Islamist group which runs the Gaza Strip, was considered a terrorist organization by Washington and stressed the US expectations of the Palestinian leadership have not changed.
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/06/u-s-says-palestinian-deal-internal-matter/
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)as a Jewish state..or so it appears.
Any Palestinian government must unambiguously and explicitly commit to non-violence. It must recognize the state of Israel and it must accept the previous agreements and obligations between the parties, including the road map, she said.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)Is it opposite day here at DU?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Obama's statement on the issue did not and has not been for the Palestinians
to accept Israel as a Jewish state as a precondition to any peace settlement.
The quote from the above OP is in keeping with that position.
US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.Any Palestinian government must unambiguously and explicitly commit to non-violence. It must recognize the state of Israel and it must accept the previous agreements and obligations between the parties, including the road map, she said.
What opposite day are you referring to?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)US Dept of State: "It must recognize the state of Israel"
You: "The U.S. position does not include recognition of Israel as a Jewish state..or so it appears"
The issue is that Hamas' charter calls for no recognition of Israel as a legitimate state, Jewish or otherwise.
So yeah, color me confused as to what point you are making?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Our position and Bibi's are different. Israel wants recognition as a Jewish state is relatively
a new position and one we do not accept as a precondition for a peace settlement...that
is the difference.
The reconciliation of Hamas and Fatah has just been announced, we'll see how and in
what capacity Hamas survives.
This is issue is not only about Hamas, Abbas will not recognize Israel as a Jewish state
as a precondition to a peace agreement.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)he will recognize Israel as?
(Sorry to end a question with a preposition - but hoping to get a current quote on this if you have one)
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)It is important to recognize that Obama will not allow Bibi, at least so far..why I said
it appears..to high jack another excuse to delay a peace agreement with preconditions
of Jewish recognition for Israel.
For Abbas to accept this before borders, land swaps agreed to, would be unacceptable
for several reasons...right of return issue and there are over a million Arabs living in Israel,
this is a legitimate concern..not hair splitting.
Abbas has already recognized the state of Israel.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)and is maintaining that in the face of the Hamas charter, whats the problem.
What are you looking for and yet not finding?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as it was the PLO/PA that recognized Israel well over a decade ago
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)They are the elected body, they are joining the government.
We shall see.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as there are several "bodies" in the Palestinian government
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)-snip-
In late December 2008, Israel attacked Gaza, withdrawing its forces from the territory in mid-January 2009. After the Gaza War, Hamas continued to govern the Gaza strip and Israel maintained its economic blockade. On May 4, 2011, Hamas and Fatah announced a reconciliation agreement that provides for "creation of a joint caretaker Palestinian government" prior to national elections scheduled for 2012. As part of that agreement, Hamas' resistance would be peaceful and not military, according to Israeli news reports.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)if memory serves last time you claimed that Hamas was elected "leaders" of the Palestinian people which is no more true that Republicans being elected the leaders of the US
Ruby the Liberal
(26,217 posts)for the utter demolition of a sovereign nation (ie, their right to exist), I will welcome the comparison. This would be false equivalency.
So, until then...
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)however apparently in your opinion when it is the Palestinians the leadership position goes to the most extreme voice, but I am sure you'll say that goes for anybody
however right now it is the Palestinian leadership hat is being discussed
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)her quote, the US position is not accepting Bibi's precondition for
a peace settlement..I don't want to see Obama alter that.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but with Khalid Mashaal, who has not been in Gaza for over a decade and says he is leaving the Hamas government