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pelsar

(12,283 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 10:32 AM Sep 2013

now i get it....you can predict the future

first reaction is that i've now noticed that the apartheid lable gets a lot of mileage on israel, but now i understand why.

after many posts of me attempting to find this new apartheid definition you and FarrenH apparently cannot really define it clearly so that its exclusively defined for israel (as apartheid was specifically for s.africa). what both of you have done is essentially saying, that though there is no specific definition of apartheid that fits Israel and only israel today, we're using the word because it fits our different BELIEFS.

FarrenH simply says israel is guilty of lots of stuff and using the apartheid label hopefully will get the world condemnation of israel that they want.
we recognize as meriting the same reaction as South African Apartheid, and therefore attracting the same label


You apparently are saying: I can read the future and Israel will inevitably have to become a real apartheid state in the future and so I'm justified in using the label today
Zionism was established to preserve Jewish hegemony in Israel……You may start to see "peace walls" through cities, and segregated areas

so though you cant really find actual apartheid laws in israel, your saying it must exist and will exist because zionism requires it to exist....... (sounds pretty religious to me, believing in something that you cant really find, but that is inevitable)

Your base belief is not that israel today has apartheid, its that you can predict the future and you know it will be one day, because zionism = racism, therefore its inevitable.

and israels present laws? its present democracy? its simply temporary until zionisms real face emerges....
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That explains why you dont want to define clearly what apartheid is in terms of actual laws, It doesn't fit israel

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