Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumPHOTOS: Palestinians destroy separation barrier in two West Bank villages
During the early hours of Friday morning, Palestinians in two Palestinian villages took part in a direct action to destroy parts of the separation barrier. In Bir Nabala, located on the other side of Route 443, Palestinians used hammers to break open a hole in the wall, while Palestinians in Rafat (near the Ofer Military Prison) cut through 20 meters of the security fence bordering their village.
It takes an act of a coward to build a wall to keep people out. It takes an act of courage to tear it down.
Mr. Netanyahu, Tear Down This Wall!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)If the Palestinians and their supporters successfully tear down that wall you oppose so much and attacks on Israelis spike to the levels of those seen during 2000-2003 (way more suicide bombings, snipers shooting drivers on the road) would you apologize and admit the wall is unfortunate but necessary?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Israel is welcome to build walls it wants-so long as it builds them wait for it-in Israel. The current route of the wall veers into the West Bank cutting off villages from their agricultural land ect in many places, now if Israel wants to wall itself off it can do so in Israel and oh if Israel wants a no go buffer zone that too can be in Israel unlike the way Israel treats the it's personal 'kill zone' inside of Gaza, Israeli's can farm from what I've read right up to the border fence however Palestinians in Gaza are shot dead if they approach closer than I believe a quarter mile
shira
(30,109 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)what Israel does as far as walls go are it's own business
When it is Jews running a country, it is the worlds business.
Especially if the Jews are strong, then the whole world needs to get involved.
They have no business running their own country.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Do you ever get tired of the "we're strong" high-school locker room talk while at the same time ginning up the victimization dance?
Geeze, which one is it?
King_David
(14,851 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 17, 2013, 12:47 AM - Edit history (1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113450933Now Jewish life uhmm sorry , Zionist life, may not mean much to those people in Canada and Belgium and anywhere else these privileged white 'activists'come from, demanding and stamping their recently pedicured feet,to tear down a wall. A wall protecting the Jewish People(umm Zionist people) from monsters, but in Israel they take those Hamas perverts ,such as the one linked to above,seriously.
delrem
(9,688 posts)from monsters"
That's purest shira/stormfront verbiage, Dave. Fancy that, the identical language of peace-seekers everywhere.
King_David
(14,851 posts)How dare you ..
Jews and Gays are allowed on Stormfront ???
WTF is the matter with you ?
shira
(30,109 posts)But really now, why are you surprised? These very same "progressive" bashers of Israel fully support a UN that rules it's okay to kill gay people:
United Nations: It's Okay to Kill the Gay
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thor-halvorssen/united-nations-its-okay-t_b_787024.html
They're so obsessed with Israel, they say to hell with the rest of the world and the gross human rights violations that continue.
delrem
(9,688 posts)in using extremely offensive language to describe the Palestinian and Arabic people is up to debate, shira.
It's up to debate just because you regularly employ such extremely offensive language.
A fact is that you use that extremely offensive language as part of an explicit hasbara operation. You, Dave, the rest of DU I/Ps hasbara contingent center yourselves around it. It isn't *coincidence* that you, expressing the extreme that you do, share an identity of opinion with Dave and other hasbara characters. You use the identical tactics, the identical techniques, the identical language subject to the identical (formulaic) restrictions, to result in a presence which has nothing whatever to do with communication.
Whether the "stormfront" description does justice to your techniques and tactics in using extremely offensive language is another debate.
IMO you should be called on it when you reference extreme Zionist hate sites and use extremely charged, offensive language to describe Palestinians, to illustrate the I/P problem. Notions like 'those monstrous Palestinians use their own BABIES as human shields' are purest stormfront, the most extreme racism as I've ever encountered. It boggles me that I've read that kind of description at DU.
IMO you that isn't operating at the level of reason, of reasoned dialogue, and the fact that such offensive language is not just used but is the whole of the message confirms it.
King_David
(14,851 posts)And re-post it in clear language?
I am really trying hard here to understand what your grievance is...
eta: I'm responding to the Dave-sock, not the shira-sock, though neither sock can tell from the other.
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 17, 2013, 10:03 AM - Edit history (1)
Anyone daring to question Hamas and Fatah child abuse you label a racist in order to shut down any and all criticism.
You mentioned Palestinian BABIES, but do you really care about Palestinian babies and children?
Here's a video for people who do actually care...
What do you think of that video?
Was the human rights activist a poser? A racist? A stormfront hater of all Palestinians?
Is the mere mention of these depraved acts against children racist and hateful?
Or are those who willfully ignore and deny the obvious the haters and racists?
Give me some real answers for a change. You can do it if you try.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Yes I am talking about the Latte crowd in Canada, people like Libby Davis .
Ha Ha You never got that Huh
delrem
(9,688 posts)King_David
(14,851 posts)But stormfront hates Jews Israel and Gays.
But I acquiesce to your obvious familiarity and expertise here and with that I sign off on this immature ridiculous argument that is beneath me. I do not consider Nazis funny or to be taken lightly.
C Ya
delrem
(9,688 posts)That's why I don't like stormfront terminology, or stormfront-like messages. I don't like those tactics, and I don't like the rationale for any strategy that would employ them. Not there, or here.
King_David
(14,851 posts)Stormfront allies itself with the Palestinian cause and hates Jews Gays and the Jewish state as does the ultra Left and extreme Right and Exteemists ...
It is against the rules here at DU to equate as such.
My advice to you is to do some inward searching and self discovery as to why your transparency page here at DU is transparent.