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Media Bias for Israel Masks Israeli Aggression against Palestinians
I show Abby Martin talking with Max Blumenthal about Israel's latest violence and give my take and several details about what the corporate media is doing to distort the reality of Israeli Aggression against Palestinians.
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Jefferson23
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Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)Some fascinating theories about that horrible war criminal Barrack Obama, the real truth about 9/11, and of course the evil Israelis behind it all. 
http://representativepress.org/
http://www.youtube.com/user/RepresentativePress
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)whoever this is, they don't take kindly to Gohmert and Caroline Glick. Should I take it you agree with
Glick?
Published on Jan 11, 2014
Rep. Louie Gohmert pushes the limits of absurdity as he reads Caroline Glick's article "The Left against Zion" and then tops it with his preposterous pondering.
Max Blumenthal is author of Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel. See what he wanted to show Americans by writing the book and what Glenn Greenwald and others have said about his book: http://RepresentativePress.blogspot.c...
See What Nelson Mandela Said About Israel
Here is a link to Caroline Glick's article "The Left against Zion"
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnis...
House Session
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)Any excuse to bash Israel, right? Just keep on digging...
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Your grasping at straws is amusing though...thanks.
representativepress
(43 posts)I notice a glib attitude and a lack of substance. You posted no counterpoints.
I doubt you can you dispute anything I have said.
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)I'd just like to see it get the attention here it deserves. 
representativepress
(43 posts)You offered nothing constructive. You wrote no counter argument. All you have done is post snide comments and baseless accusations.
representativepress
(43 posts)"and of course the evil Israelis behind it all."
What is that supposed to mean?
I quote the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission and others testifying before the 9/11 Commission, for goodness sakes, do you think that is what they are saying?!
Clearly they aren't saying what you claim, clearly I am quoting them, so why do you insist on misrepresenting what I am saying?
representativepress
(43 posts)I am saying exactly what the FBI agent, the Senior Council to the September 11 Commission and the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission testified. So why did you insist on misrepresenting me?
In that video I show how several references to Israel were omitted from the 9/11 Report and we know why because the two top 9/11 Commissioners admitted that their concern was whether the American public would reassess the policy of supporting Israel (as opposed to what the Commissioners were supposed to do which was to give a full accounting of the 9/11 attack which included what motivated al-qaeda to attack the United States.)
So why the snarky attitude on your part? You don't want these testimonies known? You don't want the motives for the 9/11 attack known?
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)You seem awfully touchy about it, and prone to jump to false conclusions based on little or nothing. But please, do tell us more about it, it strikes me as somewhat jumbled and not very clear.
representativepress
(43 posts)You wrote: " ...the real truth about 9/11, and of course the evil Israelis behind it all."
Explain what you meant by that. I have been crystal clear: "I am saying exactly what the FBI agent, the Senior Council to the September 11 Commission and the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission testified. So why did you insist on misrepresenting me?"
No could you explain yourself? And why aren't you dealing with the topic of this thread and this forum group? This is about Israel/Palestine.
representativepress
(43 posts)I did all the editing and analysis
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)shira
(30,109 posts)There are more journalists from every major media outlet in Israel, per capita, than just about anywhere else in the world.
And yet, total silence. It's almost entirely Jewish media that is covering this.
Media bias in favor of Israel?
More like in favor of Hamas. We wouldn't want to let the world know about this whopper….
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)With each post you seem closer to a cliff.
shira
(30,109 posts)Hamas "resistance" must be seen as an attempt to bring about a 2 state solution. It cannot be seen as anything more sinister. That way the narrative remains intact.
Too many reporters feel that reporting critically against Hamas is to be racist against all Palestinians. Hell, you believe that.
And then there's access journalism. The more critical they are, the less access they get to the Palestinian territories. Can't have that.
It's pro-Hamas in effect if not in intent.
But spin it as you wish.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Watch out for cliffs, shira
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)It gets better once you get past the surface. 
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)snip* The Israeli rights group B’Tselem has documented at least 46 cases from 2005 to early 2013 in which Israeli forces killed Palestinians in the West Bank “by firing live ammunition at stone throwers.” Since September 2000, Israeli forces have killed more than 3,000 Palestinians who did not participate in hostilities, according to B’Tselem’s data. But the military justice system has convicted only six Israeli soldiers for unlawfully killing Palestinians, with the longest jail sentence seven-and-a-half months, according to Yesh Din, another rights group.
Human Rights Watch has called for Palestine to seek access to the International Criminal Court to deter serious international crimes by all sides.
in full: http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/03/israel-serious-violations-west-bank-operations
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)You always judge sources on a purely ad hominem basis without regard for actual content. Aren't you interested in his views on Obama and 9/11? I think they help illuminate where he's coming from.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I think you were hoping for a clean sweep.
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)I thought you were just throwing out a random non sequitur to change the subject the way you usually do when faced with something you don't want to acknowledge.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)I believe the subject was, VIDEO: Media Bias for Israel Masks Israeli Aggression against Palestinians
You went with an assault on his sources on 9/11... fair enough. What you were clearly dodging was the
aggression that has been documented on Israeli policy. My addition to the thread was on point, and trying to
help you out while you avoided the content of the threads subject line.
representativepress
(43 posts)And his diversion was to misrepresent what I say yet I am saying exactly what the FBI agent, the Senior Council to the September 11 Commission and the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission testified.
I show these three men testifying and I am agreeing with them but he is pretending I am saying something else. He is managing to divert the topic away from the topic which is media bias for Israel and how Israeli aggression is being swept under the rug, I also cite a good article by FAIR called "On US TV, Israel is 'Striking Back'"
As I say in the video description "I show Abby Martin talking with Max Blumenthal about Israel's latest violence and give my take and several details about what the corporate media is doing to distort the reality of Israeli Aggression against Palestinians." Clearly he doesn't want that discussed.
representativepress
(43 posts)I posted a video about Israel in the Israel/Palestine Group and you have ben jumping up and down to try to divert focus from that. Why are you doing that? Why don't you deal with the excellent points made by Abby Martin and Max Blumenthal and the points I added including how the Palestinian man whose store video cameras captured Israel murdering Palestinians was threatened by Israeli soldiers:
As Human Rights Watch pleads: "Israel: Stop Threatening Witness to Killings"
"Israel should be investigating these deaths, but instead its forces seem intent on intimidating witnesses and ensuring future abuses won’t be caught on camera. The Israeli response to the killing of two boys looks more like an attempt to cover up than a serious investigation." - Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director
"There were many threats against my family. They told me that I was up against a very powerful force, and I am very small. One of them said, "We will squish you like a bug, you are nothing." ... one of the soldiers told me that they will unleash dogs on my children."
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)He likes to ignore the content of articles he disagrees with and only discuss the political associations of the sources. I thought he would find yours...interesting.
As for the actual content of your posts, I find it to be so extremely biased as to make your original headline disingenuously absurd.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Tell me again, which human rights group do you find reliable that tracks Israeli abuses?
Fozzledick
(3,916 posts)I've said what I have to say and I'm not playing your game.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)
Lithos
(26,609 posts)1) RT has demonstrated specific and consistent anti-Semitic statements. They are not considered an acceptable source for this forum given their previous editorial stances.
2) Videos are not allowed as the basis here given their relative lack of substance in favor of rhetoric.
Lithos