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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:56 PM Sep 2014

Chomsky: How Long Before Israel Invades Gaza Again?

http://www.thenation.com/article/181531/how-long-israel-invades-gaza-again?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=email_nation&utm_campaign=Email%20Nation%20%28NEW%29%20-%20Most%20Recent%20Content%20Feed%2020140909&newsletter=email_nation

The record of these past years suggests otherwise and the first signs are not auspicious. As Operation Protective Edge ended, Israel announced its largest appropriation of West Bank land in 30 years, almost 1,000 acres. Israel Radio reported that the takeover was in response to the killing of the three Jewish teenagers by "Hamas militants." A Palestinian boy was burned to death in retaliation for the murder, but no Israeli land was handed to Palestinians, nor was there any reaction when an Israeli soldier murdered 10-year-old Khalil Anati on a quiet street in a refugee camp near Hebron on August 10th, while the most moral army in the world was smashing Gaza to bits, and then drove away in his jeep as the child bled to death.

Anati was one the 23 Palestinians (including three children) killed by Israeli occupation forces in the West Bank during the Gaza onslaught, according to U.N. statistics, along with more than 2,000 wounded, 38% by live fire. "None of those killed were endangering soldiers' lives," Israeli journalist Gideon Levy reported. To none of this is there any reaction, just as there was no reaction while Israel killed, on average, more than two Palestinian children a week for the past 14 years. Unpeople, after all.

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These basic policies have been underway since the 1967 conquest, following a principle enunciated by then-Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, one of the Israeli leaders most sympathetic to the Palestinians. He informed his cabinet colleagues that they should tell Palestinian refugees in the West Bank, "We have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever wishes may leave, and we will see where this process leads."

The suggestion was natural within the overriding conception articulated in 1972 by future president Haim Herzog: "I do not deny the Palestinians a place or stand or opinion on every matter... But certainly I am not prepared to consider them as partners in any respect in a land that has been consecrated in the hands of our nation for thousands of years. For the Jews of this land there cannot be any partner." Dayan also called for Israel’s "permanent rule" ("memshelet keva&quot over the occupied territories. When Netanyahu expresses the same stand today, he is not breaking new ground.
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King_David

(14,851 posts)
1. If Chomsky really believes that Gaza is still occupied
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:04 PM
Sep 2014

Then why is he using language such as "Israel Invades Gaza ".

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. Well Noam, the answer to that depends on Hamas fascists.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:27 PM
Sep 2014

If they don't attack Israel, Israel will not have to invade Gaza.

whosinpower1

(85 posts)
11. Let me get this straight
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 01:13 AM
Sep 2014

Quote from article- Israel Radio reported that the takeover was in response to the killing of the three Jewish teenagers by "Hamas militants".

3 Israeli youths are kidnapped and murdered.....in the west bank.
Hamas in Gaza retaliates for Israeli round up of hundreds of palistians-in the west bank-
Israel decimates a third of Gaza as a reaction to Hamas uprising.....
Then claims a thousand acres in the west bank as a "prize", for the three dead teenagers...and by doing so, flipping the bird to Abbas and Obama.....and this is the fault of Hamas fascists?!? Wow.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
12. Hamas fascists decided to fire hundreds of rockets at Israeli civilians...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:48 AM
Sep 2014

Israel agreed to multiple ceasefires.

Hamas fascists did not, until weeks later and 2000 dead. They finally agreed to the same ceasefire conditions that were offered BEFORE 2000 had died.

So were all the rockets worth it for Hamas and the Palestinian people?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Regardless of how well known this is, there are enough people here who deny what Chomsky points out:
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:47 PM
Sep 2014

*Israeli scholars Idith Zertal and Akiva Eldar describe what actually happened when that country disengaged: the ruined territory was not released "for even a single day from Israel's military grip or from the price of the occupation that the inhabitants pay every day." After the disengagement, "Israel left behind scorched earth, devastated services, and people with neither a present nor a future. The settlements were destroyed in an ungenerous move by an unenlightened occupier, which in fact continues to control the territory and kill and harass its inhabitants by means of its formidable military might."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. "Israeli scholars Idith Zertal and Akiva Eldar..."
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:20 PM
Sep 2014

AKA The New Revisionists. They must not be challenged!

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