Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:07 AM Apr 2015

Shocking security agency statistics and the dissolution of the PA

4/3/2015

Palestinian writer Saed Abu Farha has published a report on the Palestinian security services in Ramallah. This report includes figures that simply cannot be believed due to their disastrous implications and miserable details. For example, the ratio of Palestinian citizens to security officers is 52:1; the equivalent ratio of citizens to teachers is 72:1. As soon as the Palestinian Authority was established, it established 10 security agencies: civil police, civil defence, preventive security, national security forces, naval police, air police, the Palestine Maritime League, military intelligence, presidential guard (Force 17) and general intelligence services.

The late Palestinian president Yasser Arafat then established two additional agencies: internal security and Special Forces, bringing the total number of security personnel to around 70,000 individuals; together they consume 37 per cent of the PA's general budget. Palestinian human rights organisations have received 3,409 complaints regarding torture and threats during arrest operations, with 82 in December 2014 alone. The agencies' main role appears to be security coordination with Israel, which consists of joint patrols on the streets (which stopped after the second Intifada broke out), joint security committees and civil security cooperation.

What I am saying (and the statistics back this up) is that the duties of the security agencies are limited to monitoring, spying on, arresting and torturing Palestinians living in the territories occupied in 1967; since the 2007 political split these have been concentrated mainly in the occupied West Bank. The PA (which is also occupied by Israel) is supposed to provide assistance to the Palestinians suffering under the Israeli occupation of their land, the restriction of their freedom and the oppression of their will. What is actually happening is the exact opposite, and this drives me to say that the PA has become a burden on the Palestinian people. Is this what America and Israel want? It is unbelievable that there is one security officer for every 50 Palestinians. The ominous Oslo agreement has a clause which stipulates PA security coordination with Israel and this is used by the authority as justification for not stopping this shameful security coordination which only benefits one party; in effect, the PA acts as a loyal foot-soldier against anything that interferes with Israel's security. There is no way that Israel will allow any interference in the activities of its own security agencies, which spy on its main ally, the United States and have done for decades, as the life sentence being served by Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard illustrates. Hence, Israel's need of the PA.

Another issue I would like to bring attention to is that nearly half of the PA's budget is spent on these security agencies, which are like a parasite on the national Palestinian body; is this logical? Where are the village and city development projects; the health and educational services; and the advanced allowances, such as elderly allowances and those given to the families of the deceased, in addition to the other services provided to citizens, especially those under occupation? According to the report, employment in security agencies is used to get ahead and buy people's loyalty, and only members of Fatah are employed. The monopoly of positions for members of the pro-government party occurs in every ministry and department. There are rarely any individuals in such posts from other parties. The PA took over the role of the Palestine Liberation Organisation and it has made every effort to make sure that the PLO has had no role since the authority's formation.

remainder: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/17866-shocking-security-agency-statistics-and-the-dissolution-of-the-pa

20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Shocking security agency statistics and the dissolution of the PA (Original Post) Jefferson23 Apr 2015 OP
the PA's main purpose is to protect Israel geek tragedy Apr 2015 #1
And why Abbas is the most worrisome guy. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #2
They will just find another guy. bemildred Apr 2015 #3
Yes, that is true..another reliable tool who wears a thin veneer. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #5
Which Palestinian political parties do you support? oberliner Apr 2015 #7
about as many as I find admirable and worthy of support in the new Israeli government nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #8
Open air prison complex libodem Apr 2015 #4
Author is anti-peace, pro-violence oberliner Apr 2015 #6
Agreed King_David Apr 2015 #13
Link us up to your claims that the "Author is anti-peace, pro-violence" please azurnoir Apr 2015 #15
Crickets... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #17
I'm calling bullshit on this article. Little Tich Apr 2015 #9
You call bullshit. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #10
This is not about MEM. Little Tich Apr 2015 #11
As well you should oberliner Apr 2015 #12
The report from Saed Abu Farha is not in english so to suggest there is unconfirmed sources Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #14
I stand by my previous assessment of the article. n/t Little Tich Apr 2015 #18
The so called "security coordination" between the PA and Israel is very well known azurnoir Apr 2015 #16
Absolutely....but there are many Americans who are not aware of the history and those that Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #19
Israel to release $473mn in withheld PA tax revenues Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #20
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. the PA's main purpose is to protect Israel
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 10:22 AM
Apr 2015

In turn, the PA gets to embezzle and appoint their friends to positions where they can embezzle

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Which Palestinian political parties do you support?
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:21 AM
Apr 2015

Who are some Palestinian leaders that you respect/admire?

libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. Open air prison complex
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:04 AM
Apr 2015

On a reservation. A reservation that has hunks of it hacked off as needed for new housing for the occupancy.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Author is anti-peace, pro-violence
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:21 AM
Apr 2015

The garbage "MiddleEastMonitor" is a perfect home for the posting of this loathsome author.

Not surprisingly, his garbage has some fans here too.

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
9. I'm calling bullshit on this article.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:02 PM
Apr 2015

There's just too many unconfirmed sources and facts in the article. When it comes to the I/P conflict, I always stay skeptical of things I haven't heard before. I also get a definite feeling that the author is cherry picking his premises for a foregone conclusion, and I don't like that.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. The report from Saed Abu Farha is not in english so to suggest there is unconfirmed sources
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:54 AM
Apr 2015

is off the mark. The history of corruption goes back a long way, this is not a revelation in that
regard, not by a long shot...only more specific in data numbers.

Some in I/P do not trust any Palestinian and or Arab/Muslim publications, some can't even name
one they trust.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
16. The so called "security coordination" between the PA and Israel is very well known
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 07:54 PM
Apr 2015

mostly it consists of the PA arresting Palestinians that belong to groups that are anti-Abbas/Fatah and here is the real kicker so to speak-the very same Pro-Israel parties that will cheer this on and call any Palestinian or Pro-Palestinian who protests this "anti-peace,antiIsrael, pro-violence, not to mention occasionally some other choice names, will then turn around and out of the side of their mouths decry the suppression of the Palestinian people by that monster Abbas and tell us that if we really supported freedom for the Palestinian people we would concentrate our efforts on Abbas as opposed to protesting Israels occupation and suppression of the Palestinian people and that we only do so because we hate.....Jews, quite the self serving circle jerk if you ask me


Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
19. Absolutely....but there are many Americans who are not aware of the history and those that
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 10:02 AM
Apr 2015

do know choose to ignore it...for rather obvious reasons. Thanks for your post, spot on.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. Israel to release $473mn in withheld PA tax revenues
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:04 PM
Apr 2015

The Israeli government announced Sunday that it will be releasing this week $1.85 billion shekel (roughly $473 million) in withheld taxes collected on behalf of the Palestinian Authority (PA), according to Israeli radio.

"Israel decided to transfer the PA's tax revenues out of keenness to maintain political stability in the region and other humanitarian consideration," Israeli radio quoted an unnamed security source as saying.

On Saturday, Palestinian Civil Affairs Minister Hassan al-Sheikh told pressmen that Israel will be transferring Palestinian tax on Sunday or Monday at the latest.

A day earlier, Palestinian Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah said that Israel has agreed to disburse withheld Palestinian tax revenues in their entirety.

He added that the Israeli government had agreed to transfer the funds – covering four months, from December 2014 to March 2015 – to his government.

He did not say, however, how his government had reached agreement with Israel or when exactly the funds would be disbursed.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/18128-israel-to-release-473mn-in-withheld-pa-tax-revenues

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Israel/Palestine»Shocking security agency ...