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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:37 AM Oct 2014

The Secret Government

I am not sure if this qualifies as a conspiracy theory. Posting here so I am not in trouble for posting in GD

In doing a little research on the "shadow" or "secret" government that actually runs our country, I found this speech from all the way back in 1922. The then Governor of New York City, John Francis Hylan, gave a speech that is quoted, in part, on the meme below.



I created that in order to be able to tweet the speech.

It is very interesting to me that with the same players were accused in 1922 as are accused today. More accurately, relatives thereof, and leaders of the same corporations.

How do we knock down a "club" so influential for so many years, nearly a century that we know of? Though there was a time when they at least had to pretend to give in from time to time, that is no longer true.

We are no longer a republic. We have become an oligarchy. The police are the military for the rich in a war on the US citizens. We are watched, spied on, brutalized, marginalized, slandered, or minimally, ignored. The two parties have become hard to tell apart in so many aspects. Money is god and we are to worship those who have it.

Are we doomed? Can we fight? If so, how?

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The Secret Government (Original Post) marym625 Oct 2014 OP
vote belzabubba333 Oct 2014 #1
Though that is important marym625 Oct 2014 #2
Secret Government, Deep State, The American Ruling Class... lots of names jakeXT Oct 2014 #3
Thank you these marym625 Oct 2014 #4
The first two are bit old /nt jakeXT Oct 2014 #5
I'm sure they're still accurate n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #6
Thank you, marym625! johnnyreb Oct 2014 #7
You mean for the speech? marym625 Oct 2014 #8
Yes, for the blue card. johnnyreb Oct 2014 #9
No it's my meme marym625 Oct 2014 #10
You do know that "international bankers" was a dog whistle William Seger Oct 2014 #11
no, I had no idea marym625 Oct 2014 #12
what's your take on international bankers then? wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #13
A lot of what he is saying sabbat hunter Nov 2014 #14
I think it morphs from time to time as to who the secret government is, but there are RKP5637 Nov 2014 #15

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
7. Thank you, marym625!
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:14 PM
Oct 2014

And do watch the Moyers' Secret Government... if the hour and twenty-six minutes is too much, there's a twenty-two minute version on youtube. By the way, I think you should use a different font, or make the fonts taller and maybe more space between the lines or something. It looks a little too squashed.

1904 cover of Puck magazine
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marym625

(17,997 posts)
8. You mean for the speech?
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:25 PM
Oct 2014

I was trying to fit it all on something I could tweet.

I can watch the full version. Just need the time. Hopefully over the weekend.

Thank you

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
9. Yes, for the blue card.
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:30 PM
Oct 2014

It could just be my tired eyes. But I appreciate it, I hadn't heard that excerpt.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
10. No it's my meme
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 06:55 AM
Oct 2014

Sorry, should have just used the excerpt thing but I had already made that.

Thanks for reading it. Pretty scary to see how long the same people have been in power

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
11. You do know that "international bankers" was a dog whistle
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:37 AM
Oct 2014

... for the "international Jewish conspiracy," right?

Why do you attach special significance to Hylan's speculations?

marym625

(17,997 posts)
12. no, I had no idea
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 10:31 AM
Oct 2014

I fully admit to being clueless at many racist and bigoted things. My apologies. Thank you for letting me know

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
13. what's your take on international bankers then?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 05:02 PM
Nov 2014

are you saying they're not international?
I prefer the term "international banksters"!
Why are you always defending the status quo?

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
15. I think it morphs from time to time as to who the secret government is, but there are
Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:16 PM
Nov 2014

certainly highly monied and powerful organizations that mainstream American does not encounter that operate in the background. And politicians appease these individuals/groups more than a supposed democracy cares to recognize. I often think many politicians are just window dressing. There is a strong oligarchy in the country and they did not arrive by chance, by accident. And now, with Citizens United, the scenario is ripe for even more.

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