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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Mar 2015 OP
Jet engines don't. Rockets use an oxiddizer/fuel mix. ret5hd Mar 2015 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #7
What would an illustration of a jet engine not working look like? ret5hd Mar 2015 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #13
Here is a good link. hack89 Mar 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #3
Google Newton's Third law and find an image. hack89 Mar 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #5
Why didn't you simply type your original question into Google? hack89 Mar 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #8
Did you read and understand the link I sent you? hack89 Mar 2015 #9
Funny - when I go to google I get plenty of pictures hack89 Mar 2015 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #12
Do you believe that rockets work in space? hack89 Mar 2015 #14
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How about I teach you how to use Google hack89 Mar 2015 #16
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Results for a Google image search for "how does a rocket engine work" arcane1 Mar 2015 #19
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It works in space too. Atmosphere isn't needed. arcane1 Mar 2015 #22
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My link has thousands of pictures showing exactly that. arcane1 Mar 2015 #26
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Why would atmosphere be needed? The oxygen is on-board. arcane1 Mar 2015 #39
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Like this? Nitram Mar 2015 #20
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Fine, here is a NASA picture. arcane1 Mar 2015 #28
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There are thousands of drawings and diagrams in my link. Take a look! arcane1 Mar 2015 #32
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One more post. You can stop being lazy and lookup the rest yourself. arcane1 Mar 2015 #35
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Show evidence an atmosphere is needed. arcane1 Mar 2015 #38
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It's impossible to post a picture of a jet engine working without air. arcane1 Mar 2015 #18
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You know what a jet engine is, right? arcane1 Mar 2015 #27
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Air pumps need air in order to, you know, pump it. arcane1 Mar 2015 #30
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The rocket creates its own atmosphere to push against. bananas Mar 2015 #42
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Here's a NASA webpage with some helpful graphics bananas Mar 2015 #45
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Why? zappaman Mar 2015 #47
I think he is a Moon Landing Truther. nt hack89 Mar 2015 #48
No, those people don't really exist anymore. zappaman Mar 2015 #49

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
1. Jet engines don't. Rockets use an oxiddizer/fuel mix.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

Response to ret5hd (Reply #1)

ret5hd

(22,502 posts)
11. What would an illustration of a jet engine not working look like?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:27 PM
Mar 2015

Response to ret5hd (Reply #11)

hack89

(39,181 posts)
2. Here is a good link.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

Response to hack89 (Reply #2)

hack89

(39,181 posts)
4. Google Newton's Third law and find an image.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

it is not that fucking hard.

Response to hack89 (Reply #4)

hack89

(39,181 posts)
6. Why didn't you simply type your original question into Google?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:17 PM
Mar 2015

that is what I did. I swore because either you are extremely lazy or playing stupid games. I don't have the patience for either.

Response to hack89 (Reply #6)

hack89

(39,181 posts)
9. Did you read and understand the link I sent you?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:22 PM
Mar 2015

why do you need a pretty picture to understand the basic concept?

hack89

(39,181 posts)
10. Funny - when I go to google I get plenty of pictures
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:24 PM
Mar 2015

do you understand how to do google searches?

Response to hack89 (Reply #10)

hack89

(39,181 posts)
14. Do you believe that rockets work in space?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:33 PM
Mar 2015

is that your issue? This is basic science - I am puzzled why you can't find any pictures.

Response to hack89 (Reply #14)

hack89

(39,181 posts)
16. How about I teach you how to use Google
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 01:39 PM
Mar 2015

it will spare you embarrassment in the future.

Response to hack89 (Reply #16)

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
22. It works in space too. Atmosphere isn't needed.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 02:58 PM
Mar 2015

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. My link has thousands of pictures showing exactly that.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:02 PM
Mar 2015

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
39. Why would atmosphere be needed? The oxygen is on-board.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:22 PM
Mar 2015

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Nitram

(27,749 posts)
20. Like this?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 02:42 PM
Mar 2015

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
28. Fine, here is a NASA picture.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:05 PM
Mar 2015



These pictures are not hard to find, I don't know why you insist on us doing the clicking for you

Response to arcane1 (Reply #28)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
32. There are thousands of drawings and diagrams in my link. Take a look!
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:12 PM
Mar 2015

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
35. One more post. You can stop being lazy and lookup the rest yourself.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:16 PM
Mar 2015

This one even has a simplified explanation anyone can understand.




You're welcome

Response to arcane1 (Reply #35)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
38. Show evidence an atmosphere is needed.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:21 PM
Mar 2015

You're side-stepping.

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
18. It's impossible to post a picture of a jet engine working without air.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 02:35 PM
Mar 2015

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. You know what a jet engine is, right?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:03 PM
Mar 2015

It's an air pump.

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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. Air pumps need air in order to, you know, pump it.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:07 PM
Mar 2015

It's kinda relevant to their operation.

Response to arcane1 (Reply #30)

bananas

(27,509 posts)
42. The rocket creates its own atmosphere to push against.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:56 PM
Mar 2015

If I understand your question, you're asking how a rocket can work without anything to push against.
Rockets use either solid or liquid fuel.
The fuel is burned, forming an extremely hot gas.
This gas rapidly expands and pushes against the rocket nozzle.
In effect, this gas is the "atmosphere" the rocket is pushing against.

Here are photos of Apollo 8's trans-lunar injection, you can see the exhaust gasses expanding behind the rocket, pushing the rocket towards the moon:

The first post-launch sightings are represented by a spectacular series of predawn photographs, shown at right, from the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory (SAO) station on Maui (courtesy Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory). The first one shows the TLI burn near 15:44 UT on December 21. As the spacecraft passed Hawaii, the changing perspective put the camera view looking up the sunlit exhaust plume. For various missions, TLI took place between 2 hours 50 minutes and 3 hours 12 minutes after launch (1.5-2.1 revolutions). John Stonesifer, NASA Recovery Team Leader, deployed to the South Pacific aboard the carrier USS Yorktown, both for planned recovery and in case of early mission abort. He reports that the crew had an excellent view of TLI from the carrier deck (and that a similar sight was visible from the Hornet for Apollo 11). He notes somewhat ruefully that "My biggest disappointment was that with all the NASA photographers aboard as part of our team we did not get any photographs of the sightings".



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bananas

(27,509 posts)
45. Here's a NASA webpage with some helpful graphics
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 04:42 PM
Mar 2015
http://exploration.grc.nasa.gov/education/rocket/TRCRocket/rocket_principles.html

Rocket Principles

<snip>

One of the interesting facts about the historical development of rockets is that while rockets and rocket-powered devices have been in use for more than two thousand years, it has been only in the last three hundred years that rocket experimenters have had a scientific basis for understanding how they work.

<snip>



When the cannon is fired, an explosion propels a cannon ball out the open end of the barrel. It flies a kilometer or two to its target. At the same time the cannon itself is pushed backward a meter or two. This is action and reaction at work (third law). The force acting on the cannon and the ball is the same.

<snip>

Let's apply this principle to a rocket. Replace the mass of the cannon ball with the mass of the gases being ejected out of the rocket engine. Replace the mass of the cannon with the mass of the rocket moving in the other direction. Force is the pressure created by the controlled explosion taking place inside the rocket's engines. That pressure accelerates the gas one way and the rocket the other.

<snip>

Response to bananas (Reply #45)

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zappaman

(20,627 posts)
47. Why?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:47 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe if you told us what you were trying to prove or disprove?

hack89

(39,181 posts)
48. I think he is a Moon Landing Truther. nt
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:58 PM
Mar 2015

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
49. No, those people don't really exist anymore.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 07:28 PM
Mar 2015

No one is that...

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