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Related: About this forumObama keeps his conscience in the closet
Let's be clear about one thing: Vice President Joe Biden's recent comment about being OK with marriage equality did not place the president in a difficult situation.
The president placed the president in a difficult situation the day he decided to push his conscience back into the closet.
In 1996, when Barack Obama first ran for state office, he was in support of marriage equality. But once he started targeting the national stage, he became less supportive. Today he says he's "evolving," which seems to be shorthand for, "Back off, I don't want to lose this election."
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All Biden did was speak from the heart. Just because the president lacks the fortitude to do the same does not mean the campaign should try to massage Biden's words to mean something other than their original intent.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/opinion/granderson-obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
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dkf
(37,305 posts)Someone on Morning Joe said Obama would probably lose West Virginia and North Carolina if he does so and therefore cynically will not support gay marriage until after the election, reflecting his "evolving" views.
Do you find that avenue intolerable?
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)See how easy that is?
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Regardless of his point of view. He is Black. There are too many bigots there, who listen to the likes of Rush Limbaugh, who think he's Satan incarnate or else some Kenyan Muslim Socialist-Fascist.
Additionally, West Virginia only has 5 electoral votes. And he never had them but won last time.
Then there's this... http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/04/obama-at-a-high-in-north-carolina.html
Which pretty much proves your worry about NC as being completely inaccurate.
dkf
(37,305 posts)And you sincerely believe he is against gay marriage?
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian it is also a sacred union. Gods in the mix.
dkf
(37,305 posts)And I think he could easily become "enlightened" a little bit into his second term.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)and not only that, he's willing to sacrifice a loyal constituency on the alter of expedience. Charming fellow.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)That is the problem. I wonder if the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a divisive issue that could lose people elections. Actually, I don't wonder. I know. It was a divisive issue...
"The bill divided and engendered a long-term change in the demographics of both parties. President Johnson realized that supporting this bill would risk losing the South's overwhelming support of the Democratic Party. Both Attorney General Robert Kennedy and Vice President Johnson had pushed for the introduction of the civil rights legislation. Johnson told Kennedy aide Ted Sorensen that "I know the risks are great and we might lose the South, but those sorts of states may be lost anyway."[28] Senator Richard Russell, Jr. warned President Johnson that his strong support for the civil rights bill "will not only cost you the South, it will cost you the election."[29] Johnson, however, went on to win the 1964 election by one of the biggest landslides in American history. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
FreeState
(10,570 posts)MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)He finds us kind of icky, too.