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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:36 AM May 2012

The Majority Of Americans Still Don't Support Gay Marriage

http://www.businessinsider.com/majority-americans-dont-support-gay-marriage-2012-5

A comprehensive survey from Pew shows that there is still no majority support for gay marriage, contradicting polls from earlier this week. Even as more people support gay marriage, the percentage of those supporting it has yet to pass 50 percent.
Other findings from the study:
Compared to baby boomers at 39 percent and Generation X at 51 percent, Millennials are the most supportive of gay marriage at 63 percent
Women, at 51 percent, are more pro gay marriage than men, at 42 percent
There has been an increase in support of gay marriage among whites and blacks, but both races are short of majority at 47 and 39 percent, respectively
While the majority of Democrats at 59 percent and Independents at 52 percent support gay marriage, these percentages have far to go to outweigh Republican opposition
Republicans' stance on gay marriage has remained unchanged over the past decade, with just 21 percent supporting in 2001 and 23 percent supporting it in 2012




Religion also plays a large role:




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/majority-americans-dont-support-gay-marriage-2012-5#ixzz1ufMl4nTp
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mucifer

(23,530 posts)
1. Yes, but more people favor it than oppose it.
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:42 AM
May 2012

Looks like there are some undecideds. 47% for 43% against. It's a good thing and it should keep improving.

Although television is a powerful media and the right wing sure knows how to control their message.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. Television is powerful, the right wing stinks at using it...yes indeed....
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:09 AM
May 2012

FoxNews is FoxNews, with a tiny niche audience, in TV terms. Include all of the 'news' and commentary programming of all stripes and you just have a wee fraction of what that medium delivers. The right has no idea how to use TV other than direct address shouting, which is really a radio form. Their most watched shouters are beaten in the ratings by any number of reruns, Sponge Bob, House of Payne.
They have a crude, obvious and old fashioned megaphone. Television is much more than news and outside the news, the right has nothing at all. Hannity can shout, yet the right can not manage to counter a 'Will and Grace' with their own sort of hilarious anti gay sit com. They got no Glee. Their actors like Kelsey Grammar or Gary Senise can not figure out how to make a conservative hit message, and they wind up being Lt Dan and Frazier Crane.
The smash hit world wide phenomenon 'Atlas Shrugged, Part One' is the current example of the right taking their best swing at doing the narrative form. Huge flop. Not even they went to see it, the right.
Palin had a reality show! Flop. And on and on it goes....
Joe Biden was dead on the money when he said :
"When things really began to change is when the social culture changes. I think Will & Grace probably did more to educate the American public than almost anybody’s ever done so far. People fear that which is different. Now they’re beginning to understand.”

So while I understand what you mean, I am not fond of the framing that the right knows how to work television well. They do not. WE do. Not our politicians so much as our artists and writers and such.

 

edcantor

(325 posts)
5. The next extensive poll should be asking...
Sat May 12, 2012, 12:11 PM
May 2012

"Would this make a difference in who you vote for next time? " Either for President or House or Senate.

This is critical.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. That poll was already done by Gallup. Results are a little disturbing
Sat May 12, 2012, 12:49 PM
May 2012

Particularly the independant more likely vs less likely.

I hadn't expected that. It means we have to work harder to get the President re-elected. Its totally worth it in my opinion, but it was a riskier move than I thought.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154628/Six-Say-Obama-Sex-Marriage-View-Won-Sway-Vote.aspx

Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
7. This whole thing is being framed wrongly.
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:09 PM
May 2012

It is not about "gay-rights" or "gay-marriage". It is about EQUAL RIGHTS for ALL American citizens. Most Americans do support equal rights for all (at least in principle, if not in practice). USE This!!! Confront them when their "walk" doesn't match their "talk". Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Make people see that their religious prejudices contradict their supposed "American values and principles".

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
9. yes, which i think makes what Obama said this week pretty brave
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:44 PM
May 2012

even if it was short of what I wanted from him

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. You have to be careful with those parts of the poll. People self-identify party affiliation
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:35 AM
May 2012

I am not sure what those mean. If they hold true, they are definitely disturbing, both from the perspective of what my expectations are of/for fellow Democrats, AND what the independant numbers in the crosstabs mean for the difficulty of getting Obama re-elected.

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