LGBT
Related: About this forumSo 12 years ago, my female partner of 13 years ran off with a straight man.
Is that just peachy, because being straight is "normal"?
Would it hurt any more, or less, if she ran off with another woman?
Should I be livid, wondering what my life was about?
Was my whole relationship a lie because she ran off with a straight man?
No. I would not have traded those 13 years for anything.
Stuff happens.
You move on.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i dont know why you posted this. but i LOVE this attitude. i feel the same. if hubby walked today, i would thank him for the fun of the last 18 yrs. that time doesnt change, just cause. the memories, the experiences.
good for you
This post is somewhat an offshoot of the post below:
So yesterday my 50 something brother-in-law came out to his mom and to his two sisters, my wife and
http://www.democraticunderground.com/113714459
My post is partially about double standards.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)sucks either way.
William769
(55,147 posts)As in your case and the other case in this Group, hopefully it was the best for all involved. Sexuality can be a strange thing sometimes.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)To be blunt (with no intent to be cruel), my question is "When?" If 12 years is not long enough, how long were you planning to wait before "you move on"?
Zorra
(27,670 posts)I've had other relationships since that time, longest was 3 years.
Had to move on from that one, too.
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tapermaker
(244 posts)23yrs ago my wife told me she was leaving me for a woman. they are still together. Me i moved on . kind of slowly .At the time i found it quite embarrising . after a few years i found my daughters mother . She ended up running off with a women when she found out she was pregnant.Took me 3 yrs to track her down and serve papers for custody.I won custody that year.havnt had a relationship now since 1997. I am just not that good at them.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Because how can I compete with a man?? Same with you if she wanted to be with a man it would seem less of a personal rejection than if she left for another woman. However, having never been through the experience I guess I am only guessing how it feels.
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)If your partner lied to you for thirteen years before walking out and admitting the truth. I would have the same compassion regardless of what the gender combination was.
Really depends alot on the foundations of the relationship and exactly what the departure means to those foundations.
If she left stating she is not and has never been gay or bi. Then you can be expected to question what those 13 years were in addition to the leaving. Did she stay just to throw off a abusive potential boyfriend? Because she was abused by a man? Cover from a mother that desperately wanted grandkids? Why did she hide this from you for 13 years?
When a wife first learns that her husband of many years like to Cross-Dress. Does she have a right to feel hurt, even though he is still hetero and looking to stay in the marriage? Common thread from most all of these women is that they wish their partner had told them before they were married. The lie is a very big issue to them.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)1) You never really know someone else.
2) People, and things, change.
I no longer have any illusions of permanence, or any concrete expectations, so nothing shocks me anymore. And I'm only rarely even mildly surprised by anything.
A person has the right to feel hurt by anything s/he wants to feel hurt by.
Of course. Everyone has the right to feel hurt, for whatever reason they desire to feel hurt about; if a woman has a problem with a cross dressing husband, it's her right to feel hurt by it, or go with the flow and embrace it as well. (Could be fun). But of course, I'm LGBT, so I'm about as blase as a person can get with regard to individual uniqueness, and diverse gender expression.
I realize that a man expressing femininity is, historically and presently, one of the greatest horrors of western civilization for many straight folks, because women are generally considered to be sooooo completely inferior to men. But I personally don't understand why it's such a big deal. I guess it has something to do with the god-like status that some women continue to ascribe to men, and to masculinity.
I've never had any problem with my partners wearing stereotypical "mens" clothing whatsoever. But then, I'm not at all hung up with culturally stereotyping people into rigid gender roles or forms of expression. And piling more shame and guilt on some poor guy because he has a feminine streak, but has felt compelled to hide it because, again, for a man to express femininity is, next to engaging in sex with another male, the greatest offense against the mythical fundy gawwd that exists in the universe.
Taking the bronze, in third place on the eternal fundy list of offenses against gawwwd, is simply, just being a woman.
Sure, honesty and integrity are critical to certain types of personal relationships.
But honesty is always relative, of course.
The woman horrified by her husband not telling her that he had an inclination to cross dress may have slept with his best friend a week after they got married, but files it in the "that's my secret, and he doesn't need to know" drawer, and remains self-righteously indignant over her husbands failure to divulge his (realistically) harmless feminine interests, without mentioning that old scarlet letter long hidden under the pancake Clinique. Or maybe she was raped as a child, and doesn't want her husband to know. Had an abortion as a teenager, and never brings it up. Fakes orgasms. Has been sleeping with her brother. Is taking a nip of gin when she's promised hubby that she's stopped. Doesn't really love her hubby, but is hanging in because he supports her. Whatever color you prefer.
Naturally, the same goes for the men also, within their sphere of common secrets; secrets and hypocrisy are equal opportunity employers.
Wish you would have told me before we were married...
Or not.
I've just seen so much hypocrisy. I'm really not cynical.
Just "realistically jaded".
One other thing I believe I've learned is not to deliberately keep secrets from potential committed partners. (This candidness usually scares potential partners away, in my case. I've made it a point to never let fear or social convention spoil my pursuit of happiness). If that doesn't scare someone away, then a relationship may be worth pursuing. It's actually a great tool to use for separating the wheat from the chaff.
It's really all about who you are, where you come from, where you've been, what you can deal with, what your priorities are, how judgmental you are, and how true to yourself you are in the way you deal with your own hypocrisy, relative to how you judge others.
Like the man said, "This above all, to thine own self be true".
But what do I know? I only know what is true for me. I have no right to tell anyone what they should or shouldn't get all freaked out about.
[link:http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thumbsucker|"That's 'cause we all wanna be problemless. To fix ourselves. We look for some magic solution to make us all better, but none of us really know what we're doing. And why is that so bad? That's all we humans can do. Guess. Try. Hope. But, Justin, just pray you don't fool yourself into thinking you've got the answer. Because that's bullshit. The trick is living without an answer.
I think.]
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Thanks for sharing here.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)but I have this growing feeling that they be more common than we know.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)My youngest sister said this to me - "You're lucky. At least you had a great love. Many of us never have, and maybe never will."
And that was after she'd had 4 children.