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Pab Sungenis (Original Post) joeybee12 Nov 2013 OP
Huzzah! OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #1
I was hoping Pab would join the Tree... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #18
My only friendly guidance would be JackBeck Nov 2013 #2
what? MNBrewer Nov 2013 #3
He was banned today. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #5
What for? OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #7
He had two hides calling out people and his account was suspended for two weeks. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #9
Yeah, that'll do it. OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #10
And he went on FB saying that it is not safe for men to post on DU. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #11
Oh thank god nt Tien1985 Nov 2013 #4
We haven't interacted at all since we had a nasty exchange over Sub Atomic's melt-down.... Rowdyboy Nov 2013 #6
I didn't know that he had been banned. OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #8
+1 dbackjon Nov 2013 #12
a bit high strung, but mitchtv Nov 2013 #13
Meh Prism Nov 2013 #14
Seeing his posts on Facebook he seems to have lost perspective... Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #15
I was just going to post this. stevenleser Nov 2013 #16
He could be harsh at times, but I admired his willingness QC Nov 2013 #17
His commments about homophobia on DU were mostly dead-on. It's a long-time problem here. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #19
yes, i am thrilled to hear this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #20
This is an old thread! joeybee12 Aug 2014 #21
I was going to edit this saying that clearly thrilled is a huge exaggeration La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #22
I must have missed some of his worst ones... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #23
what i remember was from ages ago, when there was a large fallout over who should host La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #24
I end up coming back posting a lot, then not for a while... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #25

JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
2. My only friendly guidance would be
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:13 PM
Nov 2013

to not get wrapped up in the drama created by anonymous personalities on the internet.

Unfortunately, their online disruptive behavior is only a glimpse into how they interact with people in real life.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
9. He had two hides calling out people and his account was suspended for two weeks.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:38 AM
Nov 2013

When he was allowed back on he was suspended again within 2days. The admins had enough. The comment in the link here also is a big reason.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=126308&sub=trans

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. And he went on FB saying that it is not safe for men to post on DU.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:45 AM
Nov 2013

I just do not understand him.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
6. We haven't interacted at all since we had a nasty exchange over Sub Atomic's melt-down....
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:18 PM
Nov 2013

I won't miss him, and that's putting it very nicely.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
8. I didn't know that he had been banned.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:38 AM
Nov 2013

I never saw any posts from him that seemed inappropriate.

I thought he was OK.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
14. Meh
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:59 AM
Nov 2013

He let the ideologues get to him. Ya can't do that online. It'll drive you to drink. Just gotta chuckle at the crazy and move on.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
15. Seeing his posts on Facebook he seems to have lost perspective...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:32 PM
Nov 2013
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2426871461/

Sharing this from my main timeline. A heartfelt apology to all. I'll go away quietly now.

Pab Sungenis
Right now I just want the pain to stop. My leg and back are killing me. I can't sleep. And while Advil might help the back no painkiller in the world can help with the leg.

For those who don't know, the main nerve running down into my left leg was damaged during the first of my three operations for diverticulitis in 2007. (I went into the hospital on my birthday, which is one if the reasons I no longer celebrate it.)

The damage left me with a condition called Meralgia paraesthetica, and cannot be reversed. The pain has come and gone for the past six years and lately it has come a lot more than it has gone.

If my leg isn't in exactly the right position the damaged parts of the nerve fire randomly. For an idea of what it feels like, imagine a very bad sunburn. From my thigh to my knee, that's what it feels like.

As I said, no painkiller can help. Even when I was on dilaudid in the hospital I could feel it. (But as I was on dilaudid I didn't give a shit.)

It's really only in the last year and a half that it has become debilitating. I can't walk up or down steps like I used to. (Down is actually worse than up.) Sitting for more than a few minutes gets uncomfortable. And as you can see by this time stamp, many nights I can't sleep.

If I am short with you nowadays just ask if I'm in pain. Odds are I am and don't realize I am taking it out on you.

God, I just want it to go away.


I didn't know much about his posting history but he seemed to get in heated back and forths with other posters. The internet isn't worth that kind of emotion. I think it would be nice if posters like him, were throttled to two or three posts a day for a month or so until they regain perspective, rather than expel them from the group categorized/labeled after so many posts.... Misogynist.
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. I was just going to post this.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 02:07 PM
Nov 2013

As someone who periodically (over the last 13 years since badly herniating c6-c7) has to deal with extreme pain, both the pain, and the kinds of meds you take to deal with it are not good for calm and rational discourse.

I've had discussions via Ask the administrators with Skinner about various methods to deal with different kinds of problem people and I've advocated for certain folks to have more timeouts and such but Skinner said his experience is that those things rarely help.

QC

(26,371 posts)
17. He could be harsh at times, but I admired his willingness
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 09:21 AM
Nov 2013

to stand up for LGBT DUers at times when this was not a very hospitable place for us.

Like many bannings, this one strikes me as a bit capricious. There are far worse offenders still spreading their hateful magic from one end of DU to the other, like the one who recently barked at a lesbian DUer, "You have plenty of rights," and the one who declared "Latin America is but a cyst on the anus of the world." Both of them are still around.

Two of the more enthusiastic participants in Pab's gravedancing thread made it their purpose in life back in 2007-2009 to harass LGBT DUers, and several good, longtime members flamed out after they got tired of the endless bullying and lashed out. They are gone but their bullies are still here and still up to their usual.

And let's not forget the person who received one of DU's most deserved and long overdue tombstones after referring to marriage equality as "a fabulous pink pony" and then zombied up and has had at least twenty posts hidden in his current incarnation. Still here.

There are plenty of other examples, but why belabor the point?

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
19. His commments about homophobia on DU were mostly dead-on. It's a long-time problem here.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:52 PM
Aug 2014

As for his comments about "misandry," and his attacks on feminist posters... Sorry, I can't support any of that.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
21. This is an old thread!
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:11 PM
Aug 2014

Above kicked it yesterday...I guess LGBT doesn't have as many threads as the other forums, so they don't sink as quickly!

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
22. I was going to edit this saying that clearly thrilled is a huge exaggeration
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:14 PM
Aug 2014

as i didn't even really know about this, till i read this thread. i just remember that i thought some of his attacks were very sexist in nature, especially when deciding as to who should moderate the LGBT forum. he was not alone, but he was definitely one of them.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
23. I must have missed some of his worst ones...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:20 PM
Aug 2014

I saw some, but apparently he went on and on quite a bit...

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
24. what i remember was from ages ago, when there was a large fallout over who should host
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:26 PM
Aug 2014

this group.

i know that i was irritated then and continue to be, given the lack of gender/ethnic diversity in our hosts.

prob why i barely post here anymore. I used to be a pretty frequent poster.

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