LGBT
Related: About this forumI know some here are not keen on Hillary Clinton
But I thought I would post this link about the Gay Couple in her intro video.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11073607
pinto
(106,886 posts)It was great to see.
William769
(55,148 posts)Gothmog
(145,694 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)They seem to be a sweet couple and I hope Hillary does get to attend their wedding.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I also stand firm in the belief that if people like Edie Windsor had just sat down and shut up, the moment for equality would have passed, and we'd be waiting even LONGER to see marriage equality happen, if ever.
HRC's husband certainly had a hand in formalizing discrimination against GLBT people in DOMA and DADT (both of which I understand he later regretted and repudiated). The stench of those acts shouldn't yoke to HRC, but at the same time, by HRC's own admission, she had to evolve in order to support marriage equality, meaning that she also failed to support GLBT equality at one time.
So the short of it is, I'm glad she came around, but it was NOT because either Bill or Hillary magnanimously granted equality to the GLBT community; it's because WE fought for ourselves and defended ourselves on the basic merits of doing so, and WE WON. We'll likely always have to safeguard our progress.
I don't want her as the nominee, but I do appreciate that many of my GLBT friends here and elsewhere support her, and perhaps at some point I'll be able to do so as well...?
Cheers, William.
William769
(55,148 posts)Even though it is about the Gay men in the video. Was trying to put a human face to the couple.
Peace.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)Let me count the way's!
nightscanner59
(802 posts)Glad she has evolved in her equality support since her appearance on Ellen years ago where she only supported civil unions.
I do believe she'll also continue economic recovery efforts as any democrat will, as long as there isn't some unexpected super majority republican congress.
I'll give the republicans this much, they support prosperity and liberty for everyone. That is as long as you're not:
Union members
Automotive industry workers
Public Transportation employees
Public Works employees
Postal Service employees and users
Stimulus Infrastructure construction and repair employees and supporters
U.S. geological survey employees and supporters
Scientists
Educators
National Education Association
Head Start supporters
Anyone with advanced degrees
Anyone who believes in evolution
Big bang theorists
Physicists
Artists
Coastal residents
Critical thinkers
College students
Anyone brown skinned
Katrina victims
SPLC employees and supporters
Families of 9/11 victims
Families of school shooting victims
Anyone who doesn't believe in the "war on christmas"
Anyone who doesn't believe everything Fox News says
Welfare recipients
Food Stamp recipients
Fast food workers
Minimum wage earners
Anyone Pro-choice
Anyone who wants maternity leave benefits
Feminists and supporters
Marriage Equality supporters
Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, Transgender
Muslims
Anyone who watches MSNBC or CNN
NPR listeners
Bill Maher fans
Jon Stewart fans
John Oliver fans
Progressives
Athiests
Agnostics
The 47%
Homeless and substandard housing residents
Habitat for Humanity and supporters
Anyone who thinks the rich should pay fair taxes
Anyone who is against tax evaders
Environmentalists
Green energy advocates
EPA employees and supporters
Polluter regulation supporters
Wolf protection supporters
National Parks employees and enthusiasts
Anyone supporting any banking regulation
Anyone who believes President Obama is a U.S. citizen
Anyone who doesn't support Anti-government militia groups
Philanthopists
Animal rights advocates
Peaceniks
Occupy members
Anyone who believes in reasonable gun restrictions
But the remaining 0.1 percent will prosper and be liberated from all pesky unprofitable restrictions if they win.
*sigh*, so as usual I'll vote for the lesser of the evils.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)She needs to show that she actually believes what she says. Her platforms have changed quite a bit over the years and it is easy to assume it's more because she wants to be president than because she actually believes these things.
People don't like candidates that are two-faced in this way. Even if they agree with what they actually believe. People vote for a person and not for their ability at politicking.