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Eugene

(61,881 posts)
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 01:05 PM Sep 2017

Officials: Transgender teens grisly death not a hate crime

Source: Associated Press

Officials: Transgender teen’s grisly death not a hate crime

By SUMMER BALLENTINE and JIM SALTER
Today

HOUSTON, Mo. (AP) — Some of Ally Lee Steinfeld’s burned remains were found in a bag in a rural southern Missouri chicken coop. Authorities say both of the transgender teen’s eyes had been gouged out and she had been stabbed in the genitals.

As questions swirl about why the quiet 17-year-old was killed in such a ghastly manner, authorities aren’t saying what led to the killing. But they dismiss the possibility the death was a hate crime.

Authorities identified the remains as those of Joseph Matthew Steinfeld Jr. — Ally Lee Steinfeld’s birth name. They were found last week in the town of Cabool, near the mobile home of one of the alleged killers, 24-year-old Briana Calderas, with whom Steinfeld was living.

Calderas and two 18-year-olds, Andrew Vrba and Isis Schauer, are charged with first-degree murder and other counts. A fourth suspect is charged with abandonment of a corpse and tampering with evidence.

Both Sheriff James Sigman and prosecutor Parke Stevens Jr. insist the crime was not motivated by Steinfeld’s gender identity.

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Officials: Transgender teens grisly death not a hate crime (Original Post) Eugene Sep 2017 OP
Why is this not a hate crime? Gothmog Sep 2017 #1
THere is a legitimate one in 2000 chance that the trans issue has nothing to do with this Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #3
Odd how they can be SO CERTAIN of this, the only way to be so certain of it Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #2
and when does it become a hate crime? irisblue Sep 2017 #4
Curious-- he broke up with a girlfriend and moved in with... TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #5
"She" LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #6
"She" was "he" when it all started... TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #8
No, "SHE" had a female gender ID from the day she was born LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #9
It should be a hate crime too, but Texas always sides with the haters. nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #7

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. THere is a legitimate one in 2000 chance that the trans issue has nothing to do with this
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 01:18 PM
Sep 2017

but to arrive at that conclusion you have to know everything about their lives.

everything

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. Odd how they can be SO CERTAIN of this, the only way to be so certain of it
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 01:16 PM
Sep 2017

is to know everything about their relationship and unless they are believing the criminals, how could they?

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Curious-- he broke up with a girlfriend and moved in with...
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 02:01 PM
Sep 2017

another girlfriend. Then he came out as trans and got killed.

No doubt the sheriff knows a lot more of the details, but it sure could have been a highly unusual lovers' spat.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. "She" was "he" when it all started...
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:49 AM
Sep 2017

and that was when "he" had a girlfriend. She was "she" when it tragically ended.

And it may well have been a hate crime, but we don't know for sure yet.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
9. No, "SHE" had a female gender ID from the day she was born
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 04:57 AM
Sep 2017

She was just unable to express that until she came out.

And it was a hate Crime. The mutilation to her genitals is proof of that.

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